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BUDJ BIM an Indigenous eel trap site added to World Heritage List!

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Individual,

And whose fault is that?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 6:39:29 PM
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Paul,

Stolen wages, yes, across Australia. Whether Phillip conspired to bring this about, I'm not so sure.

Convicts - and I'm thinking of my own ancestors - were not slaves. They had committed offences, and avoided hanging - only just, in the case of a couple of mine: one gr-g-g-mother of mine was given the option of hanging or transportation but complained that she got sea-sick. The judge sent her out anyway, thankfully.

South Sea Islanders, yes: technically they were indentured labourers, but were treated as slaves - in fact, their descendants were then robbed of their wages. I didn't know Phillip cooked that one up either. Thanks for that, Paul.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 18 July 2019 6:52:18 PM
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Il Duce, the "European forts" Joe was referring to, I took to be in West Africa where slaves were obtained by Europeans for use in the Americas, nothing to do with Europe itself. Slaves were transported directly from Africa across the Atlantic Ocean to the Americas. Not aware of any going via Europe. I took forts to be compounds, strong holds etc, probably Joe got his info watching the early episodes of 'Roots'.

Those Europeans are the most warlike people on Earth, since my grandfathers time they have managed to wipe out about 100 million of their own species, on their own turf through war.

BTW the European Christians got a right kick'n from the Muslim Ottomans a few hundred years back. They controlled large parts of Europe, had forts all over the place, I'm sure.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 18 July 2019 6:54:35 PM
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Paul, yes ok just had to see if you knew it too.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 18 July 2019 7:12:09 PM
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"Older than the pyramids, the Acropolis, Stonehenge -
Budj Bim has been added to the World Heritage List."
(from the OP).

But no mention of far older buildings; why?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 18 July 2019 9:13:03 PM
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Okay Joe, those people Artie Phil had in chains, gave a regular flogging to if they stepped out of line, or maybe hung them from a gibbet if he felt so inclined. These same people who had to labour for the very people who made the laws, which they had transgressed, well it was not slavery if you want to look at it that way. The majority of convicts sent to NSW their real crime was being poor.

No, I believe old Phillip had well and truly carked it by 1939. As I said if Aboriginal people worked for no wages then they were slaves in my book. What do you think, maybe like those convicts they had transgressed the law, can't do that now can we.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 18 July 2019 9:43:00 PM
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