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one way to go about it is to have prophets that can tell the difference, the other way is to seek the people's permission to be ruled over. Neither is currently being followed.

«You've talked about similar stuff in the past about having no rules, or removing the standards in schools, in airport security»

Schools ought to have strong rules and high standards.
But these rules ought to be set by the parents (or suggested by the teachers and accepted by the parents), not by government.

Airport security is cruel for the many due to the destructiveness of some very few - and still it is not very effective.

One of the most secure airports in the world is Israel's Ben-Gurion airport, despite the fact that Israel has so many bitter enemies that would have wished to blow up Israeli planes. The reason is that Israel does not play or show off the "Equality" card, but prefers innovation, obscurity/covertness and common sense. As a result, you can fly from Israel with your own water/juice bottles, but not from Australia.

«It sounds like you have an issue with governments governing the people and having laws and standards made for any institution.»

Without consent, nor divine authority.

Even then, in Australia the valuing of equality and transparency burdens the many with unnecessary standards, for the sins of the few.

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Dear Belly,

«yuyutsu this would be a great world if every faith understood and practised the fact we are all human»

I think they already do: no faith condemns rabbits as sinners or infidels.

The point is, that we are NOT humans - what is to be understood and practised is that our true nature is divine!

«If only faith was about living together as one no matter the faith»

How can you live "together" if you are one to begin with, live "as one" when we are already one? The key is to know the oneness beneath the apparent diversity, then respect both.

yuyutsu never going to understand you but know you want the best for humanity[even if you think we are not human]
IF we had one faith, if that faith preached we are all equal and practiced it I a non believer would want to be part of it
See part of the world troubles is we no longer, in numbers big enough have such a belief and it hurts us as we get further away from rules to live by

Dear Belly,

Deep beneath this mask (Greek "persona") of a human, we all are equal. This is because beneath our human mask, we are one and the same (which some of us call 'God'). Uncorrupted religions teach this.

«IF we had one faith, if that faith preached we are all equal and practiced it I a non believer would want to be part of it»

If what you mean by "we" is humans, then you probably have not thought the consequences through and would shudder if you did:

If we had just one faith and it preached and practised that humans are equal, then we would all be living in hell. It would be torture.

For example, some humans are short others are tall, but we all get equal clothing.
Some are heavy (fat), others light (thin), but we all get the same equal amount of calories.
Some can eat everything, others are allergic to certain foods, but we all get exactly equal meals.
Some are strong, others are weak, but we all are expected to carry the same weight.
Some are intelligent, others are dull, but we all are expected to perform equal intellectual tasks and read the exact same books.
While we have different tastes, we are all expected to have/marry the same partner in life, with the same number of children each, pets too.
In such a world, we all live in equal houses, with the same number, size and shape of rooms, equal in decoration and furniture, including equal beds regardless of our physique and medical needs.

And so on.

Human equality is anything but good.

Respect, yes. Respect comes from the knowledge that deep inside we are all one and the same.

To Yuyutsu.

The logic of only being ruled if given consent is a flawed logic. A murder will never give consent to follow the laws or to agree to the punishment for murder. The people who don't break the laws should have some protection from those that do. I understand your not liking all the laws given, that comes with the package. There are governing rules such as taxes that no one likes to pay, speed limits that really only help make speed traps and tickets for people driving on the highway. And even rules that help the rich and play an unfair set of laws made to favor some over others. In the cases that there is unjust laws, and injustice, the point is to change the laws to be just.

Laws are made to protect people. Those that don't consent to the laws don't get a free pass. The only one that is above the laws is God Himself. The Maker and the Redeemer. God is not everyone. Those that rule badly will have Him to answer to. Not in the next reincarnation, but after death (if not while still alive).

IF we had no oceans we may well have developed as one people, or maybe we would not even exist
But we did develop and in different ways, with different Gods
We, one day, will be one humanity but we have some more evolution to come first

To Belly.

I know many people here think religions are all man made, and that God, (all the different varieties from different religions) is just as much made up. So the point that God is real and the importance of finding out which religions (if any) are from Him are important. In my opinion having freedom of religion is a buffer from one religious organization or another holding too much power, potentially reducing the people's ability to search for God on their own.

However that said. There's another point I want to address. I don't think humanity evolves. Culture and technology changes, as we can see the differences in societies in different nations and throughout history. However people are still largely the same. The same stories written by Shakespeare several hundred years ago still show the same struggles we connect with and face today. I don't think humanity evolves socially. Every new generation has to figure out most of the same lessons their parents and grandparents did. Without the life lessons of most people's great great grand parents (due to them passing on and not able to direct the younger generations to avoid the same mistakes) every new generation is bound to re-explore the same ideas and same mistakes that happened just 3 or 4 generations ago. (Why else would socialism in all it's failed attempts have to be repeated by different governments only to face the same negative results.

I wish this was not the case. But as far as I can tell humanity doesn't evolve. The same good things and bad things are probably all there since the stone ages. In fact I would argue that primitive societies in the stone ages are just as good and bad as we are today. (Meaning they are just as sophisticated, and we are just as primitive).