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Folau and GoFundMe

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SR,

You are really trying to stretch things, as St Augustine and St TA were scholars / philosophers that based their musings on far more than just the scriptures, and while they were Christians, their writings are not considered the word of god any more than the ravings of rev Rod Bower.

And for the literacy challenged, "does not necessarily connote" essentially means that context is essential. Quoting the same scripture whilst wearing a white suit and carrying a burning cross would probably be interpreted differently.

In both cases the victims displayed no active discrimination in their normal lives.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 1:33:12 PM
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Dear Shadow minister,

You write;

“You are really trying to stretch things, as St Augustine and St TA were scholars / philosophers that based their musings on far more than just the scriptures, and while they were Christians, their writings are not considered the word of god any more than the ravings of rev Rod Bower.”

What a rip roaring apologist you are. See the St in front of their names, it stands for SAINT! This is the high regard the faith had for him. No only that, Augustine was the BISHOP of Hippo while Thomas Aquinas was a Dominican friar, a Catholic Priest and a Doctor of the Church.

Here is a recent example of the reach of the anti-Semitic verses within the bible;

“In the aftermath of Saturday's tragic mass shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue, much attention has been given to the gunman's social media presence and virulent anti-Semitic statements. Robert Bowers reportedly yelled "All Jews must die" as he opened fire. His Gab profile appalled many with its use of the biblical verse John 8:44 – "Jews are the children of Satan" – as a sort of slogan and introduction to his account.”

Besides John 8:44

“When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility! All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”” Matthew 27:25

“for ye also suffered the same things of your own countrymen, even as they did of the Jews, who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove out us, and please not God, and are contrary to all men;” Thessalonians 2:15-16
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 2:51:00 PM
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Issy, you ask of me, 'is that so'?

My answer is an unequivocal, YES!

All the people you mention have the right to hate whoever they wish and I completely condone such reasoning.
The very thought that I cannot hate someone or something because of some morons idea of offending or upsetting someone is so alien to me it beggars belief that there are such people on the planet, or more the fact that they are allowed to integrate and have contact, with 'normal' people.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 9:33:35 PM
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Altrav,

"Any Christian is justified in hating the Jews because they basically had Christ killed because he dared to criticise and attempt to stop them from making money, which leads to power"

Any person who hates a person in 2019 because of what someone did around 30 AD is a moron.

It is just as moronic for an Irishman to hate an English person because of what some Pommie officer authorized in 1916.

"hate (noun) [the verb covers much the same].
abhorrence, abomination, anger, animus, antagonism, antipathy, aversion, bias, enmity, hostility, ill feeling, ill will, intolerance, loathing, malevolence, prejudice, revulsion"
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hate
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 10:54:20 PM
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Izzy, firstly check my wording.
The 'elite' jews.
And yes you can hate these people because of what they did many years ago, because these are the Builderbergers, and they are very nasty scum that should be rounded up and given the gas chamber themselves.
Whether anyone wants to believe it or not, but they were behind the gassing of the jews, yes the 'elite'.
Izzy if you want to hate someone you have your reasons for doing so.
Any other person is not privy to your reason/s, they were not involved or affected, so they have no right to comment.
Apparently Hitler was the illegitimate son of a Rothschild, who had a penchant for young ladies so he would rape his servants or girls who catered to him domestically.
And of course one became pregnant with Hitler and the rest is a matter of record.
Now as much as I found it hard to believe, because I am skeptical about things which are 'too good to be true', I will go with this until I come across other material which puts this story in doubt.
So yes, the 'elite' were trying to rid themselves of the 'imperfect' Jews, so vane and superior they saw themselves that they could not stand the existence of inferior or lower class Jews.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:45:56 AM
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Altrav. If you are a Christian there is a very good reason why you should not hate the Jews. God sent his son Jesus to die for your sins. If he had not died you as a Christian would not be saved. So the Jews (and/or the Romans) insofar as they caused Jesus' death were doing God's will. If you hate them for killing Jesus, then you hate God for sacrificing himself (as his other self, Jesus) for you. God's word: love you neighbour, love your enemies
Posted by Cossomby, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 1:22:41 AM
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