Bloody Hell; all the fuss being made here by the twitterati and yet
they completely ignore this aspect of religion;

http://tinyurl.com/y3e8mzdb

Only 50 killed in Christchurch and look at the uproar.
These attacks are almost daily and not a word in the media.

And what is the argument here about, some words on Facebook !
Bloody Hell !

It reminds me of the 1930s when everyone turned away from Hitler.

Bazz,

I read the link you gave. It's from "Jihad Watch"
which is an anti-Muslim conspiracy blog which
is known for it's anti-Muslim propaganda, inaccuracy,
and intolerant messages.

Its Director and co-founder - Robert Spencer is one
of America's most prolific anti-Muslim figures.
His writings were cited dozens of times by the Norwegian
terrorist Anders Breivik.

Spencer was banned from the United Kingdom as an extremist
in July 2013.

Conflict in the area mentioned in your link is more
complicated than Christians versus Muslims. There are
also quarrels over land and water use, ethnicity and
religion. There's more to the incident given, than what
is in "Jihad Watch" you need to do more research before
quoting from a hate site to us on this forum.

This is really an important issue on
social media because its where cyber trolls, bullies,
stalkers, and revenge posters are, and there's a whole bunch of
hatred, and people are targeted, sometimes very personally.

A recent story has revealed that social media posts and
emails are at the centre of the majority of defamation cases
in Australia. Think before you post.

Dear GrahamY,

You charge; “Steele Redux, you can't resist a snide shot at Christians, but the basis of your criticism of the Gospel of John for quoting Jesus calling "the Jews" children of Satan, is wrong.”

Please reread my post. I posted a quote directly from Wikipedia. If you have an issue with what is written there you can make your own edits and see if they are accepted.

All I did was ask a perfectly legitimate question;

“What if instead of quoting passages about homosexuals headed for hell he had quoted John and claimed that Jews are to be feared and that 'Salvation is from the Jews'?”

Whether that would be construed as hate speech is of course relevant.

Saying there is a particular interpretation of these scriptures is fine. But there are also different interpretations of the very few scriptures relating to homosexuals in the bible.

Take ROMANS 1:26-27 “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.”

Mathew Vines who is the author of God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships.” writes “Paul is explicit that the same-sex behavior in this passage is motivated by lust. His description is similar to the common ancient idea that people “exchange” opposite-sex for same-sex relations because they are driven by out-of-control desire, not because they have a different sexual orientation. And while Paul labels same-sex behavior “unnatural,” he uses the same word to criticize long hair in men in 1 Corinthians 11:14, which most Christians read as a synonym for “unconventional.” Christians should continue to affirm with Paul that we shouldn’t engage in sexual behavior out of self-seeking lustfulness. But that’s very different than same-sex marriages that are based on self-giving love, and we shouldn’t conflate the two in how we interpret this text today.”

Steele I don't have a problem with a sensitive reading of the passages surrounding homosexual practices, although I think the person you quote has not fairly dealt with the text. But I do have a problem with people making specious claims, apparently in this case based on what you read in Wikipedia, which are meant to vilify a religion.

Paul doesn't actually refer to "homosexuals" as the concept basically didn't exist at the time. It was the activity that he was criticising. There was no sense that there was a group of people who somehow had a different sexuality in the ancient world.

He was also reacting to the pagan world, where bisexuality was rampant in some Greek and Roman cultures, and what mattered was who was dominant and who was submissive, not who or what you had sex with.

The Jewish belief, which is the Christian one as well, was that you only had sex with someone you were married to. All other sorts of intercourse were forbidden. Lust isn't the issue. Lust for your married partner was fine. Having sex outside of marriage was the issue. Which is why in the list Folau paraphrases adultery and fornication are side by side with men lying with men. Homosexuals aren't actually mentioned - he's done a bad paraphrase.

Sex isn't viewed as being recreational by Christians, but as partaking in God's creative power and his love for the world. This is partly what the Song of Solomon is about.

Rubbish Foxy, you are following the Lefty Useful Idiots propaganda.
I used look for and read where possible in the national countries
news web sites. Google translator is useful there.
Not easy to do but minor errors are found but basic truth is there.
Of course when something is Australian related no errors there
except some geographic errors it is easy to check.
Re the UK well Spencer joined a whole group of people banned for Islamaphobia.
You should understand that the UK is gradually being too frightened
to say boo to muslims. Rather Brits are examined by the thought police
and can end up in court and do risk gaol for saying the wrong thing.
Another place you should keep an eye on is Canada, it is going the same way.

I don't check much now as I found little in the way of errors.
You said this;
His writings were cited dozens of times by the Norwegian
terrorist Anders Breivik.

Now isn't that typical of the twitterati ?
You find some nasty who has quoted your target and use that against him.
Are you on twitter Foxy, I am very disappointed in you.
Cheers

Foxy, just read on Jihad Watch article about children being withdrawn
from classes on Islam in the UK.

Checked the Independant and it was part copied from that newspaper.
I could, but I won't bother, send you one of the French or German
monthly reports of Islamic attacks in those countries.
These reports have daily reports of such problems. There is almost
no days in the month without a report.

You really do need read more widely.
Cheers Foxy but sorry for being so terse.