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Folau and GoFundMe

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Foxy,

You asked:

"Would someone be sacked if they called Christians stupid
or deluded? They've just expressed something they believed
in that they regard as a blatant fact."

Firstly, it happens all the time, secondly, I don't see anyone getting fired for it, thirdly, if this is treated the way that Folau was treated there would be many greenies out of a job.

Finally, Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. I think Rugby Australia is beginning to understand this.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 28 June 2019 10:35:09 AM
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It’s all the fault of the “haters and homophobes” according to the “perennially sanctimonious” Kerryn Phelps (Gideon Rozner, The Spectator, 27.6.19).

According to Phelps, all of us haters and homophobes have been waiting ever since the YES vote to start a “revenge” campaign on religious freedoms.

Seems to me that it was Phelps clones who started it all by attacking and demonising a man for thinking that he still enjoyed religious freedom in post-Christian Australia.

Rozner rightly dismisses Phelps as oozing with “sneering elitism”, and points to the truth - that Australians have rejected her those of her kind who are trying to tell us what to do and what to think. We have had enough of the “militant, with-us-or-against-us modus operandi of the professionally woke”.

What Rugby Australia and the “inclusivity zealots” have done is turn a solitary man’s religious beliefs into a “full-blown national brouhaha”, which has exposed them for what they are, and ensured support for Folau.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 28 June 2019 11:56:47 AM
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One of those moments, had page with drawn and could not post
Being honest my views have changed, is that ok?
See he had a contract, it clearly said he must not AGAIN [he has done it before] put such stuff out
He will not win because no one wants to circumvent his rights to his beliefs
Posted by Belly, Friday, 28 June 2019 12:10:07 PM
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It’s interesting that ONLY the self-indulging, self-regarding and whining homosexual community has made a fuss about Folau.

The drunks, adulterers, liars, fornicators, atheists and idolaters -also mentioned by Folau, and more prolific than the homos - seem to be much more well-adjusted; or, perhaps they believe in freedom of speech, don’t care, or are simply normal, well adjusted people who can smile and get on with their particular vices.

People unfamiliar with Australia could be forgiven for thinking that homosexuality and snowflaking are foremost in the minds of all Aussies.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 28 June 2019 12:20:38 PM
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SM,

The results of the Folau case will prove interesting.
What's legal and where do we draw the line.

The following fact sheet - covers discrimination, what the
law says, education exemptions, work exemptions, and it
gives case examples. It's worth a read:

http://www.adcq.qld.gov.au/resources/brochures-and-guides/fact-sheets/religious-based-schools
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 28 June 2019 12:42:50 PM
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Foxy said;
Would someone be sacked if they called Christians stupid or deluded?

I would certainly hope not, it is just opinion.
Your employer cannot sack you because you have an opinion on something
that has nothing to do with his business. He would have a valid case
if you criticised his business. As Master he is paying you to support
his business, not denigrate it.

Rache, the Bible and Koran are books of their time. It was a pretty
nasty time then in most areas. Rome was a good example, the Roman
armies massacred their way to build an empire.
While at the same time developing the foundations of government and
our legal systems. These principles they adapted from the Greeks.
However the time known as the enlightenment led to the end of all the
nasty bits of the Bible being ignored as reports of their times.
The Koran has not had its reformation in that sense.
Although reformation for Christianity really refers to the rise of
Protestantism.
Oh dear I am sounding like a religious student which I am definitely not.
I do like the History Channel, and books on ancient history.

Belly said; See he had a contract, it clearly said he must not AGAIN
[he has done it before] put such stuff out

That is the point they are arguing today, "Can an employee talk/write
about anything without his employers permission out of work time ?"
Did DMR approve of everyhing you wrote on here before you wrote it ?
Did you ever talk about the job on the local repeater ?

You see where this is going ? It has very wide implications.
Just read what is happening in the UK.

Example of where it might be reasonable.
Fred works for Microsoft.
Fred is a keen Linux user and comments on a chat site that Windows is
rubbish and is full of security holes whereas Linux is virtually bulletproof.
Now Fred's statement might be true, this argument is religious,like
AGW, and his employer could have a valid complaint.

So you see the problem ?
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 28 June 2019 1:20:32 PM
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