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Julian Assange Arrest

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Fester quite an imagination you have there
Understand, even forgive, see I understand that branding anything you dislike as leftist, is a known symptom of being uninformed
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 14 April 2019 6:13:12 PM
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No worries, Belly. I have no affinity for extremists, left or right. Felt sympathetic to the fellow initially but changed my mind after following the story for several years. The beatification of people because of their politics is a sad reality.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 14 April 2019 6:55:00 PM
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Belly,

You might be interested in this interview with a soldier on the scene shortly after the Apache shooting. Life is complicated.

https://www.wired.com/2010/04/2007-iraq-apache-attack-as-seen-from-the-ground/
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 14 April 2019 8:47:32 PM
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Fester take the S from https then your links willwork, regards to those who told me
AGREE, I too swung from support to the other side
WARNING constructed introduced witness saying what they are told to will never ever outweigh that voice in the chopper
Note as you have me in the leftist basket how do you find my agreement with your view?
Posted by Belly, Monday, 15 April 2019 6:10:19 AM
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Hey plantagenet,
I beat you to that article mate and I had a totally different take on it than you.
Even saw it coming days prior.

Hey Fester,
"It was not an anonymous source that claimed Assange smeared his faeces on the embassy walls:"

Not sure where I read that, it must've been in an article.

"Interior Minister Maria Paula Romo said Assange went so far as to smear feces on the embassy’s walls."

In any case it's just conjecture.
There's no evidence he actually did it;
They are just playing off the useful idiots so they will turn against him and not support his treatment by them.

Remember the rape charges were dropped.
There's no evidence he did that either.
There's nothing new since 2011.
They are trying to demonise him in the eyes of regular people.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 15 April 2019 7:12:47 AM
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The evidence against Assange is VERY FLIMSY.

Manning was talking to Assange using the secure messaging app 'JabbR' after already sending Wikileaks a large quantity of classified information.

Manning then told Assange that there was more information; but it was on a SIPRnet server he didn't have admin-level access to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPRNet
Manning then sent Assange a hash (half of a code) to try and crack (or lure him to crack) in order to try to access this server.
(Manning may have been an asset and may have been trying to entrap Assange - there was no reason for him as a private or an analyst to have the classified info he already sent)
Later, Manning asked Assange if he was successful cracking the password to which Assange replied "No luck as of yet".

This is the basis within the indictment for saying Assange and Manning had an agreement, or conspired to hack US government servers.
- But in Assange's defense - we don't know if there's any actual evidence to support that Assange actually tried to help Manning access these servers.
We don't know if Assange tried to crack the password or sent Manning any potential passwords to try.
When Assange said "No luck as of yet", he may have just as likely been thinking 'I'm not going to do anything illegal myself, but I don't want to lose my source' (in the context of a journalist - and in the same manner as other corporate media journalists have done); so he's probably said that without any real intention at all to actually try to access that server.

Manning then says "Well I think I'm done for now, I don't think I'm going to try to do any more pulls (access classified information)";
To which Assange replies:
"Curious eyes never dry in my experience".
That's Assange simply saying something like 'Those with curiosity and a conscience to look at these things will probably continue to look more, in time'
This is the entire basis for the Justice Department's indictment of Julian Assange.

From here: http://youtu.be/esVwgpRfGuA
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 15 April 2019 8:44:29 AM
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