Belly: Guns should be controlled but must exist because we do, some of us, need them.

I have no problem with that. Farmers & Stations, Away from Cities & Towns. Yep Fair enough. Guns locked in Gun Safes. No problem.

In Cities & Towns, lock them in a Central Armory in a Police Facility. There is no need to have guns inside a City or Town limit. Security & Police excepted.

My other problem with open gun ownership is the ease & availability to moslim terrorists. We already know about the moslim Terrorist Training Camps that have been discovered in Northern NSW & in North West Victoria.

They have already said they want an Army to enforce their Great Southern Caliphate. There's plenty of Video & Media evidence for that.

Yes I understand that it's only a Radical few, for now. When push comes to shove, ordinary (moderate) moslims will be obligated to join them, or face the consequences. Such is their Religious obligation.

Restricting firearms will, hopefully, slow down the Terrorist agenda.

Al Jazeera is part of, "making of the Islamic World ." So yes it was a set-up with the help of the ABC, GetUp, & the Left to get anyone who stands in the way of achieving their Aim of an Islamic World.

By the way that Video, http://tinyurl.com/y384g6nl, explains it all perfectly.

Jayb,

"Restricting firearms will, hopefully, slow down the Terrorist agenda"

Then they'll make their own or import them.

What're you going to do?

Ban all lathes, drills and milling machines?

Hacksaws and files?

Muslims are the world leaders in making firearms at home.

"A Khyber Pass copy is a firearm manufactured by cottage gunsmiths in the Khyber Pass region between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The area has long had a reputation for producing unlicensed copies of firearms using whatever materials are available; more often than not, railway rails, scrap motor vehicles, and other scrap metal with basic hand tools [1]. The quality of such firearms varies widely, ranging from as good as a factory-produced example to dangerously poor."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khyber_Pass_copy

In my collection is a Mau-mau gun, made from a piece of seamless steel tube, it has no moving parts, as the firing mechanism was wood and Customs took it off as there were some worm holes in it, the spring was a rubber band and the means of ignition were children's cap gun caps.
It is still fireable using a cigarette .
The rere of the barrel was sealed by the simple expedient of heating the tube and bashing it closed where it was bent to form the stock.

Terrorists don't need guns anyway, explosives are very effective, would you ban fertilizer coal and diesel?
Petrol?

Dear Is Mise,

Mate you clowns just can't give the fearmongering a break can you. 50 people lay dead from a right-wing extremist inspired by the kind of language you two are rabbiting on with and here you are ratcheting it up again saying things like “Muslims are the world leaders in making firearms at home.”

Bloody hell.

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

Are you suggesting even for a minute, I'm a 'right wing' extremist, essentially because I support shooters rights?

You call IS MISE, (a Korean War veteran, and an individual who's worked with guns for the Defence Dept) a 'clown'? Saying he's wrong when he asserts in part; '...Muslims are world leaders when it comes to fashioning weapons at home...'. I'm here to tell you Steele old friend, the Muslim's locked up in Sydney's Long Bay Gaol, turn out more illicit weaponry enough to start a veritable war, and put out of business, the SAF in Lithgow.!

Al JAZEERA often pedal propaganda for the Muslim extremists. Always first, with announcing terrorist atrocities. Seemingly, they really have an ear inside the camp? If they're anything like our ABC, I believe nothing they might say?

Jayb gun locker are a must even in the city, criminals and terrorist do not usually, use legally held guns
Trying to stop them getting those guns is far different that making more illegal

Dear o sung wu,

You ask;

“Are you suggesting even for a minute, I'm a 'right wing' extremist, essentially because I support shooters rights?”

I'm not sure how you have arrived to the point where you felt this was reasonable suggestion. I was clearly talking about the clowns geeing each other up about a perceived Muslim threat when the topic was about One Nation looking to solicit bribes from a foreign organisation to weaken laws protecting Australians from the type of tragedy which occurred in NZ.

They should be expected to get called out on it and I did just that. If you felt the need to engage in fear-mongering about Muslims then yes I would have included you. But you hadn't.

However if you feel you can illustrate why you thought this was about purely shooters rights you have the floor.