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Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 11 April 2019 3:58:49 PM
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To Belly.
Are you really insulted because I started in the direction you asked? On Tuesday, 9 April 2019 7:14:26 AM you said as part of your reply: "NNS find your posts interesting but maybe we should come up with methods for a better world, some future date it is almost sure, a one God will be imposed on humanity" And with that in mind, I gave a very broad suggestion for what you can do to make the world a better place. It wasn't a criticism against you, unless you really want it to be. Honestly don't make a suggestion or ask a question, unless your ready for that suggestion to be taken seriously, or that question to actually be answered. I responded to your suggestion to "come up with methods for a better world." Read it again this time without getting offended, then reply. Or don't, either way. (Continued) Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 12 April 2019 2:53:13 AM
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As to your last reply to me on 11 April 2019 7:02:55 AM. (The one that you got offended that I gave suggestions for making the world a better place). My reply is simple. •All views are not valid, nor are they all equal. The only ones that would think this are those afraid to have theirs criticized and who do not share in seeking the truth instead of stroking their view as right regardless if it is or isn't. Watch yourself with that philosophy it is a poisonous one. •As for Trump. You say he is a danger. Why is Trump considered a danger to you? So far there is no WWIII, instead it seems his style has been the best approach to North Korea, and a few other international leaders. Don't like how he measures up against your set of morals? Or against a silver tongue statesman who false promises and lies their way through the world. Then my reply is simple. What does Trump do that is so dangerous and worth more of the focus then the leaders of Syria, Turkey, China, Russia, and at least a few in Africa. There are real dangers out there. You know the ones. The ones that if you say anything against them they declare war on you or send a package of terrorists to you gift wrapped. Trump is talked about, and criticized to the extent that people do, because he doesn't reply with war to everyone who is offended by him. That's the only real reason I can think of that Trump is the focus. Because he's no real danger when you speak out against him, but he still annoys and offends people so they reason he's a danger as an excuse to speak up. Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 12 April 2019 2:54:57 AM
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NNS mate! the purpose of a discussion need not be everyone agrees with everyone
I do find your posts interesting And sometimes agree You ask me why I think as I do about Trump Once, like my generation, I worshiped at the feet of America Saw a country [boy was I blind] that stood for justice fairness honesty I see in Trump a mean spirited racist lie teller and a fraud,I see power bought with money controlling my once dream country And I see, and it hurts, my lifelong wish for an equality, for every opportunity for everyone, to live a good life, was a pipe dream That this POTUS cares nothing, nothing at all, for those that can not benefit him Worst than all that? uninformed blind people who think they see anything worthwhile in the man Posted by Belly, Friday, 12 April 2019 6:21:00 AM
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http://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/i-know-nothing-about-wikileaks-donald-trump-20190412-p51dfj.html
Just another lie? we seem to see one every hour or so Or is Trump in the early stages of dementia Posted by Belly, Friday, 12 April 2019 12:08:23 PM
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To Belly.
If I made it sound like everyone had to agree with each other, that was not my intent. But I do think the idea that all views are equally valid is not a good approach. There are many views that are valid even if they differ. There are many views that are worth standing against. Knowing what makes a point strong or weak instead of accepting it unconditionally is better in my opinion. From that approach you can tell if a person has a resonable stance or if they are talking out of both sides of their mouth and not valid at all. (An example of this is anyone we see that makes a demand of other people that when it comes to applying to themself they have a ton of excuses). As for Trump, I disagree with your assessment of him. So far he's also shown signs of keeping his promises that he campaigned for instead of picking one and dropping the rest. It's something worth counting as a positive even if he doesn't measure up to your standards of being a moral leader. As for the US. I've been growing up in a culture that has been trying to shame and undercut the nation from within the nation. Take a lesson from me and try to encourage the youth of Australia with things to be proud of their nation and their culture. Hopefully you guys can curb this in your own nation instead of having a generation no longer feel pride of being part of it or are emberresed by part of it. That negitive narrative likely caused many issues that could be part of what you're seeing in the US today. Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Saturday, 13 April 2019 3:36:06 AM
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Lol.
What a tortuous web you are having to weave my friend.
“The two articles you posted earlier were about Congress passing laws to stop easing of sanctions. But neither were in response to attempts by Trump to ease sanctions. They were if you like,preemptive strikes.”
Ha ha ha!
Pretty well rest was pure bunkum and diversionary too.
“In fact there are more sanctions in place now than when Trump was elected. Something else for you to ignore?”
The sanctions are on because Russia interfered in the US election to the benefit of Trump. That is simply not in dispute even if there is not enough evidence to lay charges of conspiracy.
Then you say Trump could have “maintain Obama's brakes on the industry”. What? It was under Obama in 2015 that the products of fracking were allowed to be exported, particularly crude oil exports which had been banned since 1975.
Of course a good part of the driver for US industry had been that ban. It saw it enjoying natural gas prices well what under Asia and Australian businesses were paying. We needed that for Australia. Now if Trump were really determined to maintain that advantage for the US he would re-institute the ban. However there is far too much donor money from fossil fuel companies for either party to walk it back. If Trump was to do so it would get my stamp of approval.