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A View of Trump

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Belly,

"Find me another reason humanity is so divided".

How about politics, skin colour and languages for three?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 8 April 2019 5:54:04 PM
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To David F.

Trump is creating family clinics that aren't abortion clinics? That's great news. Especially after the news that New York expanded legal abortions through to full term. The hard fought battle against abortion needs to take place.

For Christianity being favored, I have another take on the matter as well. Several years ago the city I lived in put up holiday decorations during Christmas season. They had been doing this as long as I can remember. However one year someone wanted other holiday decorations to be put up in the same season to show Jewish culture in the holiday as well. The result, when this opportunity arose to be open to diversity and welcome to more culture, the decision to remove the Christian themed decorations and replace it with winter holiday decorations that represented no religion and holds no culture.

Disappointing as that is the decision makes some sense finically. It is easier to remove all religious affiliation rather then spend more money to include other religious decorations and try to represent all of them that had someone in the community belong to any given belief system. Essentially if the demand is equal treatment on things that will cost the city/state more money to have then one likely result be in the name of equality and fairness to take away something from the religions that have cultural roots there. Regardless of the reasons it's my observation that equality of religion when it comes to city/state funded activities, it can result instead of equality and being allowed equally, it results in equally being suppressed and removed.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 3:01:15 AM
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Want another solution for the Muslim on death row? Supply the resources that are being demanded, and just ask that they be allowed for the one facing death. Basically instead of a lawyer making demands there could be the Islamic community trying to put a service in that the Christian community has forged in that area to supply and place on their own.

For the same reasons I gave earlier about religion being part of a person's life as a whole, I reject the whole idea that a person's faith should be private only, and not allowed in the public sphere. With that in mind as long as Trump is not forcing his beliefs on anyone else during his prayer breakfast (no one is forced to come or required to believe) then I am glad that that the prayer breakfast is there.

As for the campaign, I'm not surprised by this. The changes through several presidents now have made it easier to contribute to a candidate, instead of limiting the campaign contributions like the laws had at one time. Regardless if clergy is involved or not, this is a troubling aspect of changes. The good part of it is that preachers and pastors can talk about politics openly if they desire, instead of being restricted on the parts that the bible has a stance about a political issue.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 3:03:05 AM
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To Belly.

If you want to look at religion through unbiased eyes, then don't wait for the future for this to be able to happen. Do it yourself and do it today. (But of course in order to do this you have to not be biased yourself. Meaning that you can't already assume that they are false and made up when you look into them).

As for other issues that divide people up? How about identity politics, continual divisions between the rich and the poor, drugs and addictions that harm and destroy communities and families. Or if you want a general observation. Consider any job that has multiple shifts as part of it's staff and crews. There is always issues between shifts that get placed in the work environments even if the company tries to stress "we're all on the same team." You can try to blame religion for divisions in humanity, but even when it's not wanted, people make divisions on their own. That's part of our broken nature more then it is that religions say different things then each other and obviously don't share the same beliefs.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 3:05:58 AM
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To SteelRedux.

Am I a spokesperson now that I have to answer for the decisions made by my government? No, I can't agree with everything that happens, and this is true regardless who is president. That doesn't mean to jump ship and join a militia or some such thing. The divisiveness that has happened in the US over it's president's has grown for several presidents now over the years. How bad the divide is for Trump and the media franchising on hating him is a few notches worse then it was before.

That this hate for a US president is spilling over to Australian culture should worry you a bit. Especially since you weren't able to answer the question I gave you earlier. Why is the focus on Trump so much that He can be brought into any topic on OLO in some way or another? What good does this do? What purpose does this serve? And why Trump instead of some other world leader that has actually committed a crime against their people, (or mass killed their own people in a civil war?). Think hard on this, if you come up with an answer outside of Australians being played and cultural manipulation, I'd like to hear it.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 3:09:47 AM
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NNS find your posts interesting but maybe we should come up with methods for a better world, some future date it is almost sure, a one God will be imposed on humanity
We get past the two hundred posts in most Trump threads
Lot of wheel spinning and lack of agreement but we are interested enough to keep them alive
What if, what if we truly see the man one day,could we have lived with such negativity from any past POTUS?
Even Nixon
It remains my view the man is that clapboard construction we see in western movies, looks like a saloon out the front but nothing at all behind it
We shall see
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 7:14:26 AM
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