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A View of Trump

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David, sorry no country can be trusted less than Trumps America , in my view
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:54:41 AM
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Foxy:"I'm glad that you agree that gibbering morons do have "soft brains."

Yes as do towering geniuses. The trick is being able to discern the difference. Hint: those who fell for the collusion myth don't fall into the latter category.

SR,

Oh dear. I asked you a few days ago to provide examples of "Nearly every action regarding Russia even before he became president illustrates how beholden he is to him".

And this is the best you can come up with? That the Russians are in Venezuela and Trump hasn't removed them yet? What a sorry state your theories are in if this is the best you can muster.

Russia's helping Maduro therefore Putin owns Trump?
Well China's helping Maduro...does that mean Xi owns Trump?
And Cuba's helping Maduro...does that mean Castro owns Trump?

Seriously, how desperate can you get.

If Trump really wanted to help Putin in Venezuela, then he'd lift the sanctions he's imposed.

What exactly do you propose Trump should do to resolve the Venezuela problem? Invade? Isn't it strange how all those who said, during the campaign, Trump was a war-monger and would start WW3 keep getting upset that he won't start any wars.

Look, Russia's economy is hurting badly because of the low oil price. They need it above $100 just to stabilise the decline. If Trump was truly in the can for Putin, he'd be reducing US oil output and forcing an oil price rise. But he's doing the opposite in encouraging more fracking, building more pipelines, building export facilities and encouraging places like Poland to buy US energy and break away from dependence on Russia.

He doesn't do those things because he isn't "Putin's puppet". Its not really hard to follow once you stop suffering from TDS.

Here's the link to the quote SR mentioned in his last post...http://newsprod.abs-cbnnews.com/overseas/01/18/19/house-republicans-join-rebuke-of-trump-for-easing-russia-sanctions

If you read the article you'll see why SR hide the link.

Take it as a given that when someone quotes from an article but doesn't offer the link, they are hiding something.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 6 April 2019 12:22:58 PM
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Dear Belly,

Sorry mate but will have to get you to clarify that at little.

Are you talking about the Trump administration rather than Americans as a whole?

The same country that produced Trump has also produced Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a spirited, passionate spokesperson for a new generation.

There are many countries around the world where those in power are patently more untruthful than the Trump administration.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 6 April 2019 12:31:27 PM
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Just a warning people, the link that mhaze has provided has been flagged as containing malicious software. It is not a direct CBS link.

The article I quoted from is a Politico one and can be found at http://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/17/house-rebukes-trump-russia-sanctions-1108939

There is absolutely nothing in the article which contradicts the obvious, that Trump is looking to get a mate of Putin off the hook against the wishes of the majority of those elected members.

Dear mhaze,

Come on mate now you are just flailing around with very little coherency at all. This is no fun if you can't pull a decent argument together.

I raised the issue of Trump trying to make sure Putin's mates are free from sanctions even though the Democrats and a large chunk of Republicans disagree. You then ignored this as obvious evidence of Trump trying to look after his mate Putin and instead went to my later point about Venezuela.

You are either being deliberately disingenuous or you are badly rattled. I suspect it is the latter.

How about you smarted up and have a proper crack at defending your position as untenable as it may be.

And I repeat it is conspiracy not collusion so enough with the myth you are propagating for your president.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 6 April 2019 12:50:06 PM
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mhaze,

Some brains are softer than others - they're mush.
Thinking people are discerning enough to tell the
difference. In America today - under President
Trump the Republican party is unrecognisable.
It's gone from a party of persuasion to a party
of incitement. Hopefully at the next election
they will throw the bum out. (as David F., suggested).
Fingers crossed that Joe Biden does stand for office.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 6 April 2019 12:56:32 PM
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So I guess SR has given up argument and no just relies on innuendo and obfuscation. When arguing with SR, that's were it always ends up.

So if my views have " little coherency at all" then why don't you explain how Trump's energy policies are helpful in solving Putin's single biggest. Why don't you explain what you expect Trump to do about Venezuela. Why don't you explain how Russians helping Maduro is different to Chinese and Cubans helping Maduro.

As to the article you mentioned, all I could do was use the quote you gave to find it. And I did. That it exists elsewhere is hardly surprising. My AV doesn't flag it. But anyone who reads the article and understands it (ie not you apparently) can see that the resolution failed in Congress and can also see why it failed and that the sanctions being lifted wasn't initiated by Trump but by Treasury. And if you read other articles about the issue, you'd know that the why the sanctions on this one man are no longer valid.

But its all SR misunderstanding pretty much everything. Sanctions on Russia are causing havoc to their economy. If Trump was in the can for Putin, they'd all be lifted, not just those on one inconsequential individual.

But Sr will continue to ignore the facts because they aren't what he wants them to be.

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Foxy, I also hope Biden runs.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

http://legalinsurrection.com/2019/04/and-then-there-were-seven-three-more-women-come-complaining-about-creepy-encounters-with-joe-biden/

I guess your impeccable sources forgot to keep you appraised of these little problems.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 6 April 2019 1:40:27 PM
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