Belly, anyone who votes Labor regularly is a lefty.

Anyone who proclaims their extreme loyalty to Labor, no matter what stupidity they push is an extreme lefty.

I guess that in your lefty world, only those left of Khrushchev are considered left.

Of course the debt is higher. Even Abbot wasn't conservative enough or had enough guts to dump Gillard's revenge, the debt trap of Gonski, NDIS & a few other less headline problems she left, designed to cost us a fortune.

One thing you can be confident about is that when the conservatives lose the election they will not turn nasty, violent and tantrum throwing like the pussy head democrats did in America. They won't set out to put Shorten in prison even though he probably deserves to be a lot more than Trump. I doubt whether they will invent rapist to challenge Shorten's appointments.

Abbot wasn't conservative enough
Hasbeen,
Yep ! Being conservative means having common sense & sound logic. I thought Abbott had that, alas ! Shorten doesn't even know the meaning of the words nor do any Leftists.
Abbott let us down & I'm afraid Shorten will cause us irreparable economic & social mayhem !

Goodness me - what utter nonsense is being spouted
here. It sound like the football mentality - you
support your club no matter what. Some of you guys
need a reality check. Take a look at what's happening.
Even their own are leaving the party in droves.
They're out for number 1. Making sure that they get all
the benefits before things change. It's all about "me,
me, me" with these guys they don't give a stuff about
the country or what's good for the people. They're out for
themselves with whatever means possible. But the usual
outmoded tactics are no longer working for most of us -
the name-calling, the attempts at scare-mongering, "You're
a Lefty!" Gee that's scary - right? And "You're an idiot!"
which is scarier?

Come on Foxy, you're the one that lives in the football state.

Shorten wants to increase migration & refugee intake.

QED, that is the story. The man will do any harm to the nation & it's people to buy a few votes.

We have to make sure his cynical attempt to buy votes costs him a hell of a lot more than it gains him.

We might even restore some ethics into the once useful left, although they are so far down the "what ever it takes" mentality, I think they are beyond it.