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Labor might backtrack on refugees

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Philip S.,

Case closed?

You still don't get it.

In terms of forecasting by polling, "being right"
means two different things depending on whether
you were estimating the popular vote or the
electoral. In the case of Gallup - they estimated
the popular vote and they got that right.
Hilary Clinton won the popular vote. Donald Trump
won the Electoral College. These polls actually
got the big picture right with Clinton winning
more popular votes than Donald Trump.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 December 2018 5:24:37 PM
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Belly Quote "Trumps end, downfall not impeachment but criminal acts and ties to Putin"

I have said many times the truth usually comes out in the end.

This will burst your Trump bubble, please read and have humble pie for Christmas dinner.

Trump-Russia dossier was created so Clinton could challenge 2016 election results – Steele.

The British ex-spy who authored the infamous dossier alleging collusion between Donald Trump and the Kremlin said one of his goals was to give Hillary Clinton legal basis to challenge the 2016 election results.

Christopher Steele’s salacious 17-page report was commissioned by Fusion GPS, a firm connected to Clinton’s campaign.

“Based on that advice, parties such as the Democratic National Committee and HFACC Inc. (also known as ‘Hillary for America’) could consider steps they would be legally entitled to take to challenge the validity of the outcome of that election,” Steele wrote in recently unsealed declaration that was published by the Washington Times.

The court challenge never came. Instead, the unsubstantiated dossier was leaked to news outlets such as BuzzFeed, fuelling Russiagate hysteria and serving as the backbone of a two-year probe that has yet to corroborate any of the document’s core claims. The document was also used by the FBI to obtain a warrant to spy on former Trump aide Carter Page, who was accused by Steele of meeting secretly with Kremlin insiders in Moscow. Incredibly, former FBI Director James Comey admitted that his agency had not verified the dossier’s contents before using it to justify the warrant.His statement is part of a series of answers which Steele provided in a defamation suit brought by three Russians who head Alfa Bank, who were named in the dossier as part of the alleged collusion conspiracy between Trump and the Kremlin.

The dossier itself has apparently fallen out of favor with many of its early champions: One of the first journalists to report on Steele’s research has stated that many of Steele’s central claims have yet to be substantiated and are “likely false.”

Con't
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 22 December 2018 7:32:29 PM
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Con't

The allegation has yet to be proven, with some reports suggesting that the flagged data actually originated from an internet spam farm based outside Philadelphia.The defamation case against Steele was dismissed by a DC Superior Court judge, but lawyers representing the Russian bankers have launched an appeal in US District court, attaching Steele’s revelatory statements as part of their filing. Steele claimed that internet traffic data had been observed between Alfa Bank and a computer served linked to the Trump Organization.

Steele faces similar legal trouble in London, where he is being sued for defamation by Russian entrepreneur Aleksej Gubarev. In one of his memos, Steele accused Gubarev of personally hacking DNC computers. Gubarev has also sued BuzzFeed for publishing the unverified claim as part of its uncritical coverage of the dossier.

link actual court document
http://twt-media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2018/12/13/Steele_August_filing.pdf
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 22 December 2018 7:33:16 PM
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For anyone interested - here's the link to the full
picture of Trump and Russia:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42493918

There's also a book by Bob Woodward that paints
a very good picture of the American President:

"Fear: Trump in the White House."

Worth a read especially for anyone still defending
this man.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 December 2018 10:13:07 PM
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I'd be more worried about getting mugged by a local than by someone who doesn't know this country well and has been here only for a short time.
Posted by esperence, Sunday, 23 December 2018 12:38:34 AM
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Philip S enjoyed but in no way change my mind
Trump daily near hourly shoots himself in the foot
He much more than Clinton, used lies fear loathing open racism to win power
And they are coming home to roast him
Please remember to hold my predictions against me, next year if I got it wrong
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 23 December 2018 5:52:16 AM
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