“Only if it (the Liberal party) accepts the Victorian catastrophe was more the Coalition’s doing than Labor’s can the Liberal Party learn the lessons of its demolition and start to recover and rebuild. But if this self-awareness doesn’t dawn soon, kiss goodbye to the Morrison government in six months’ time, and even be prepared to kiss goodbye to the Liberal party as we know it.”

That's a pretty good summing up by Terry Barnes in The Spectator. But what can they do? Go further left and offer the spongers more free stuff than Labor? That's all politics is about these days: buying votes from a greedy electorate, with money that doesn't exist, and to hell with the consequences.

In many threads I have proposed the right has taken the Liberals away from their base
I want to underline that,supporters EG Sky News try just that.
How many votes are won by anti safe schools? how many are lost?
How many came to conservative ranks because of energy/climate change policy, how many left
Review, in statewide vote counting, ABC web page, how many votes did the extreme right get?
Can anything be gained pandering to them?
Now review conservatives enemy, the true left,how many votes did they get? was it worth the effort targeting them?
Did voters think Labor was a true left party,
A shattering defeat was known to be the outcome weeks ago, has the two fighting cats in a bag we know as the Liberal party lost contact with its true base,are outside commentators doing more harm than good to them?
A small l Liberal party will emerge as the current one learns the same lesson again in both NSW and Federally, its very DNA will not change until its near death forces change

// buying votes from a greedy electorate, with money that doesn't exist, and to hell with the consequences.//

ttbn conveniently forgets that ScuMo was the leading advocate within the government to give big business tax cuts. Morrison spent every moment as Treasurer trying to pass his ‘enterprise tax plan’ to give $65 billion to big business, including $17 billion to the big banks.

ScuMo voted 26 times in parliament against the Banking Royal Commission. He called it a "populist whinge". He still opposes any widening of the RC terms of reference.

Return the Coalition at the next election and they will jack up the pension age to 70 and beyond. Morrison does not support the Aged Pension. He told people to forget about relying on the Aged Pension. Cuts to Medicare, Schools, Hospitals have all been done by this government, will spending billions on useless submarines for the Navy brass to play with, and their will be more Morrison cuts if they get back in. In the same way as they cut the pay of the lowest paid workers, they will cut the pay of every other worker as well. Morrison demanded the States privatise assets at fire sale prices, with sell offs to his business mates if the States wanted funding for infrastructure.

ttbn where is any of that, "buying votes from a greedy electorate". ScuMo is your kinda guy!

Hi belly,

I hope you are still a Labor activists, the progressive side of politics is going to need every one of us to man the trenches in 2019. The rabid conservatives through their mouthpieces, particularly the lunatic Murdoch gutter press, are going to launch an all lying smear campaign against Bill Shorten and Labor in the run up to the Federal election, its going to be a tough fight!

Paul! nothing can change that ever
BUT I reserve the right to express a view about what conservatives need to consider
ttbn need not be rebutted, his view is the problem, not the answer to conservatives troubles
Forget following America, Trump is a product of a very weak Democrat party with the wrong leader
Too forget Fox, the recent take over will forever change that propaganda machine
Democrats did not fail in their senate
The task was impossible two years before the election.
Sky news shock jocks, elderly statesmen of the two party,s that make up today,s Liberals are shrouting views only minorities believe in
Julie Bishop last night said what more than a third of today,s parliamentary members of the Liberals, and about 60 percent of voters think
Ready for next year? a cake walk two victories in the bag, unless they remove mini me and put Bishop in charge

The pain must be too much
From my first post after a spell from this place my posts have seen me sidelined as a Labor know nothing.
Maybe even traitor to the country
No one has tried explaining why we saw a Prime Minister in name only, tell us, even now, his only policy is defame Labor
While mini me held his press conference, not to say we will do better, not to talk about policy he lost another member
A Woman, one of the very few, yes this government refuses to consider females, his only tactic?
Fear and loathing about Labor
It did not work in Victoria, it did not work in 2007, it will not work in 2019
Today Scott Morrison told us he rejects voters opinions and the very idea policy can convince them
He took the mud bucket out to confront the fire hose about to sweep him from power