To Belly.

There is s left and there is a right. In politics anyways because we've made them. What I've said for the left isn't just for communism. Those who've sided with left leaning politics from favoritism towards a minority or a disadvantaged demographic. Or from economics, worker rights, minimum wages and such things. Even to the current age of restrictions on speach, even restrictions on critizing certian subjects at all, even if they follow the rules to not be rude.

All of these that make up what is regarded as the left all seem to share one thing in common. The push to enforce a state of ethics. Some are more worth while, while others are worth nothing. But they are all clumped together in a push to support all of them. At least that's what seems to be what draws people to those philosophies and politics. A drive to make the world a better place and too often an empty promise by politicians to lead us all into that better world.

And there's the rub. The promises are misleading and the causes too many. All too often a politician only needs to lead people to the next cause and never have to follow through to make it right on the last cause. "We stand for this," they say but they really don't.

So with a sincere heart, my opinion for left leaning politics is that if they have the fear of God in them, and a healthy respect for the things that work alright, as well as a cautious eye on the evils that are part of every society, and to a smaller degree a struggle in everyone.

If a left leaning person can do this, then they might be on the right track. If they can't then they'll be lead astray and demand dragging everyone with them.

....for the record I also have a different set of advise for what's been grouped as the right.

NNS I live in that left, like my party moved over the years from very left to about a center just left of middle
want social welfare, but want reform to isolate fraud
want health cover for all, do not want privatization, but want better management and control of the things we run
want accountability from business and politics, an ICAC that has the power, if needed, to even arrest the PM if he/she has committed a crime.
but the left owned and invented by the very right does not exist

All NNS favours is conservatism, no progress what so ever. Pick up on this god fearing crap, and be a good lad, be content with your lot, don't rock the boat with talk of a better life for the majority through social justice. Its as if life for the many should be set in concrete, all is to be as is, determined by the god fearing conservative ruling class. Do not be sinful and concern yourself with change, god will provide, in the next life of course, as the religious elite have been thundering from the pulpit for centuries s they work hand in glove with the powerful masters of society.

The most vocal with their state of ethics, are in fact the god fearing junkies, who see religion to be a useful tool of oppression. To demand social justice for workers, for women, for the poor, for the indigenous etc is seen as the work of the devil and should be resisted at all cost. Is that not what you are babbling on about NNS?

Belly.

The critisms the right gives of the left aren't unjustified. It's not an invention made by the right. Are they exaggerated? No more then the critisms the left has of the right. Keep an eye on the politics of dragging people through the mud because they fail the newest progressive standard. Watch also as politicians say they are for one thing but make little to no effort to support it out side of lip service photo oppurtunities. Watch as the everyday person gets burdened by higher taxes, business restrictions, and new burdens that keep getting piled on top. These aren't inventions of the right. They are unfortunately the things that squeeze a farmer, a store owner, and any service from construction to medicine.

Not at all what I'm saying Paul.

//Those who've sided with left leaning politics form favoritism towards a minority or a disadvantaged demographic.//

The most notably disadvantaged in society over the past two hundred years, the time of the industrial revolution, have been majorities, the poor, workers and women. The great struggle has been for the rights of these oppressed majorities.

The cynical view is that the progressive political leadership make empty promises, and fail to deliver. That cynicism is not warranted in our Western democracies, progressive change has been realised in many areas, and mostly for the good. The good life you enjoy today is the result of the struggle undertaken by progressives in the past, and social justice for the betterment of society is still being fought for today on many fronts.

NNS you seem to take a conservative stance, and malign social change, particularly as it relates to minorities such as gays, somehow seeing their rights as unwarranted and unnecessary.