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Show me The Communist left

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Paul, Foxy, both have commented in my view well on this subject and most.
The whole point of my view on this subject is the rights claims are just not true.
Paul knows I am not a fan of the greens
He should know I am not a hater either.they want a better world, social justice, heaps of shared wants there.
BUT they are not the extremist group, the right invents over and again.
People fall for the shock jock rants, the right of reality ranters.
Greens just introduced a statement they are to call in parliament for? a national ICAC Labor will support them, it will get up, at last.
Like the banks inquiry this PM voted against 26 times! you will forgive me for holding the view it is not the not existing communist left we should fear but a very real right of reality right
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 October 2018 11:23:03 AM
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Dear Belly,

If we get more and more Independents into Parliament
perhaps they just may provide a balance - and force
Parliament to discuss real issues that matter to
the voters.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 28 October 2018 11:27:36 AM
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To Paul.

I'm not against several issues of the progressive left. But the way things are handeled in several left politics and philosophies leaves me with a growing distrust of the left. The cynicism has been earned. As for homosexuals and politics, I think there are many in the gay rights push that undermine the whole purpose of equal rights to instead being more privileged then the rest of society. There are a few other things too, some in their favor, others not so much. The wedding cake lawsuit wasn't in their favor. The issue that they don't get to choose to being homosexual, that makes me want to help them and have a concern for them.

In spite of any views for any of the disadvantaged demographics that the left try's to say it champions one of the issues that I don't agree with is how much division left leaning philosophies harness to try and win points on being the "good guys," while leaving things as is for the most part and focus on PC censorship (so they can retain the look like they are fighting for others while doing nothing at all).

Hope that clarifies done of it. If it doesn't so be it. Don't try to voice my stance if you don't know where it stands.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 28 October 2018 2:14:24 PM
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Foxy will try to keep my bias at the door for this off topic post.
BOTH SIDES must lift their game, however the next Bob Hawk John Howard Whitlam, Menzies will come.
Until then look at the independents in the house.
Senate is a shambles, some got in on 17 primary votes, many got in then deserted the party that put them there.
Lower house has I think 6 cross bencher,s.
UNLESS the vote is tied their vote never counts
More independents will only see more minority blackmail of who ever is elected.
What if a single vote, put an independent in, who traded with this government, most do, and even in a big swing it was returned?
Protest votes die, unless they second preference one of the big two.
Both sides need throwing out on their ear now and again
Both sides, one much more than the other right now, need to spend more time looking after us than in fighting each other
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 October 2018 4:51:12 PM
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NNS, I believe you are an American, correct me if I am wrong. The big social justice issue there over the past 100 years has been the civil rights of African Americans. Something with hindsight can be identified not as a left versus right issue, but one clearly of wrong versus right. Some tried to distort the argument by falsely claiming it was an ideological struggle between the left and right, when it was not. Unfairly branding civil rights activists as communists etc. A common tactic of the conservatives and the extreme opposition opposed to a particular social justice issue is to stigmatise those in support as communists agitators using the issue to drive their own secondary agenda. There is hardly a social justice issue where some conservative will not resort to labelling it as left versus right, instead of accepting it as a purely social justice issue.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 28 October 2018 6:09:13 PM
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Dear Belly,

The Morrison Government has no articulated policy
agenda beyond a quick fix - such as the $4.6 billion
handout to the Catholic and Independent Schools and a
dollop of drought relief. Not only is there no grand
vision for the future of the nation, there isn't even
a legislative agenda. What do statements like - "I
believe in a fair go for those who have a go" mean
exactly? or "I'm on the side of the Australian people."
We hope so - as a PM he should be. And there's more.
However enough said. No wonder voters are beginning
to question things.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 28 October 2018 6:16:12 PM
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