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Show me The Communist left

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The left gains it's vote by creating victim groups. Or mobs.

Reminds me of something I read recently, that said,
I believed in the mob, until they came for me.

If you want a prime example of the communist utopian rhetoric, look no further than
the hippie baby boomer generation.
Think of the old hippie song of a "big melting pot". "Big enough to take the world and all its got"

Sound like no borders and a globalist world to you.its the old communist doctrine being pedalled with different sounding words.
It's the same old utopian idea of equal outcome. You can have equal opportunity, but there can be no equal outcome. Big groups of people will succeed and big groups of people will be mediocre, fail or be downright thugs or criminals.
This is where the hippie utopian fantasy gets it wrong. You can give people equal opportunity but you will never get equality of outcome.
And the revolutionaries become murdering regimes much worse than the capitalists every time they have gained power. Not that the Capitalists are saints.

More people died last century under communist regimes than ever died under Hitler.
But the danger of the left is hard to pick because it is done espousing noble humanitarian virtues.
The left has encouraged the rise of these white hate mobs like Antifa, and Black Lives Matter,. The left gains votes by telling them,they are oppressed and the Labor party is the humanitarian party that is on their side and will save them.

The Truth is these so called victims are going to the best universities in the world and have equal opportunity if they step up and take personal responsibility for making something of their lives, but it's all too difficult to do the hard yards so they prefer to sit around blaming the western world for their failure.

As I said at the top. You may agree with the mob until they come for you, if the violent street marches tip over into revolution. If you are white you'll be first to die.
Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 25 October 2018 5:25:25 PM
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Before deciding if the communist left exists perhaps you should define what you mean by 'communist'. Is it Marxism or Leninism or Maoism? Was Castro communist? Pol Pot? Hitler once said words to the effect that Nazism was what communism would be if it was also nationalist. Was he a communist?

the problem is that 'communism' as well as 'socialism' get bandied around so much that they have a very imprecise meaning these days.

My rule of thumb definition is that communists look to control all aspects of the economy through a central power of like-minded revolutionaries. Communism is inevitably totalitarian and oppressive. Socialism seeks to guide all aspects of the economy through legislation and control of the major power structures. It could be democratic but rarely is. (eg Fascist Italy). Democratic socialism seeks to redistribute the benefits of the economy on some criteria is considers fair. It usually fails before it becomes undemocratic and almost always trashes the economy.

I think that many people who consider(ed) themselves communist don't necessarily agree with the oppressive tenets of true communism. For them its a Utopian dreamland that could never exist and where Ivan Denisovich doesn't exist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Day_in_the_Life_of_Ivan_Denisovich). It was once said of Lance Sharkey (head of the CPA when a young Belly was a member) that, had he gained power (at that was not entirely fanciful in 1949) he would have been signing death warrants with both hands. I'd doubt that our youthful Belly would have known or accepted that.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 25 October 2018 5:47:56 PM
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CHEFUL m haze it is not my task to tell you what communism is
My question, because in the end the thread is a question,is does the communist left exist.
I will claim if it exists, it is a very small powerless thing, unless it is in the hands of the right.
And too to underline it exists only in the tool shed of a right so very wrong truth is an obstacle to its reliance on phantoms it creates and uses to blind us all to its true intentions
Again this morning news tells of more pipe bombs, such is the America ruled by the right truth is victim
We are unable to be sure if the right sent them or the so called left
Hate and division in the once united states has seen trust on both sides, die,and phantom left that does not exist wrongly blamed
Posted by Belly, Friday, 26 October 2018 5:57:24 AM
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Issy, are you trying to be provocative or are you simply ignorant when you say //The nearest thing that we have to Communists today are the Greens//
Since you claimed founding membership of the fascists principled Shooters Party, now the Shooters, Hooters and Ice Cream Sellers Party, trying to lift their 0.1% support base, it is understandable anyone you see as left of centre would be seen as communists. Like John Hinckley Jr. who perceived Ronald Reagan as a communist, you probably perceive Corny Banana as the next Joe Stalin.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 26 October 2018 6:03:52 AM
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" it is not my task to tell you what communism is
My question, because in the end the thread is a question,is does the communist left exist."

I can't tell you if the "communist left exists" if I don't know what you mean by 'communist'. Tell me how you define 'communist' (eg when you were a member what did you think it was) and I'll tell you if that type of communist still exists today.

Under my definition of 'communist' they most definitely exist.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 26 October 2018 9:54:56 AM
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Not all Greens are communist and not all communists are Green, but most definitely some Greens are communist. And the Lord said, they shall be called Watermelons.

Anyone ever heard of Lee Rhiannon?

Environmentalists and totalitarian belief systems have a long history of mutual support and membership, back into the 19th century.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 26 October 2018 10:00:43 AM
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