jayb so wrong mate! voted against the NSW ALP the year we lost office over the rats [scum bags] in our ranks.
Do the maths leave you views out of it ask why if I am wrong, your tip has zero chance.
Reality shouts at me a center Liberal party would win this coming election and many more.

OK, so we are not going to talk about it.
However Jayb it is true major parties are shedding votes.
But telling me, voters are sheep, not just voters but most of them, vote zombie like because they are uniformed?
Truth is that insults them and wrongly praises our selves, for knowing more they we say they do.
Small parties in this country remain small because voters do not want them, in numbers that would make them bigger
It will not change until a third force ,with a base of followers big enough to kick start it emerges.
Australian politics has true reasons for concern.
It has become focused on infighting, internal policie wars, not what voters want.
BUT tomorrow we will see a very real Liberal small l party may become a reality.
Should/when that happens, it is my view they will prosper.

Belly: But telling me, voters are sheep, not just voters but most of them, vote zombie like because they are uniformed?

I did not say that. I would say that most voters are informed but vote for one of the two major Party's anyway, because that's what they & their forefathers have done or they are Religious (anti-communist)or Socialists (working man) Some people are uninformed (never read the papers, watch debates & such. They are just not interested in Politics& vote fore their fathers Party's. They'd rather watch TV: Rev heads/Wrestling/Days of our Lives, etc.

Jayb please do not be offended by my opinions, they are in no way aimed at offending any one.
In truth, less than a week ago, I started questioning my return here
In an effort to stop my reactions to? insulting uniformed attacks on me, I made up my mind to TRY truth without being bothered by ranters[not you].
It remains and will forever, my view while some voters staunchly vote only for a single party, always.
Swinging thinking voters in the end win elections.
Too that the coming Labor victory, will be won again, by the swinging thinking voters.
A rejection of Liberal policy, rather than endorsement of Labors.
Nothing can convince me at this time, other than a true Liberal party, separate from the very right [who by their actions stopped Turnbull, now ScoMo from being a true leader] will emerge and will govern, maybe fueled by the coming loss
Reasons? continued

Here I get controversial, but remember like you may be wrong.
Tomorrow many things will influence Liberal voters who will not vote Liberal.
In truth, [see the polling] many of them want action on climate change.
Just as many, on every side, want the boats stopped forever
BUT too want an end to offshore detention.
Labor, my party, should get its head out of the sand and join ScoMo in getting as many as is possible sent now, to NZ and any third country.
While commiting, to no more boats.
A centrist Liberals would do both.
In fact right now ScoMo is working on a post by election solution, aimed at keeping his center in the party tent.
In my view, no claim to it being the only one,the Liberal right has over estimated its support in its own party's voters

Belly: Jayb please do not be offended by my opinions,

I wasn't offended. In fact we said very much the same thing.

Belly: Too that the coming Labor victory, will be won again, by the swinging thinking voters.

Well I don't think they will. Shorten is too much of a gamble. Worse than Turnbull ever could be. The Unions have their hand up his shirt & he's happy to have their hands there. That's very dangerous for Australia. For a start there'd be so many boats the Border Force would be overwhelmed. As far as sending the detainees to NZ. What have they ever done to you. That would be doubly bad for Australia in 20 years. Having rogue Muslim Countries on either side of Australia, not good.

Belly: Liberal right has over estimated its support in its own party's voters

I don't think so. They are deserting, yes. I suppose that explains why people Pauline's Vote is getting bigger with every election & now that Parliament says it's official, that it's not OK to be White, I dammed sure her vote will go up again.

Hmmm.... let's see. My 104th. GGGGrand Father was Pinudjem I. High Priest of Amun. (African.) I safe. Ay.