And what relevance does that silly question have. Do you justify the killing of some, by letting others into your country.
Paul1405,
Your replies reek of ignorance. Why do the people who came here establish the same way of life here as they had back in their old counntry ? How many more innocent would have perished had outside forces not intervened ? What makes you think the south Vietnamese would not have been wiped off the map if others had not jumped in ? Isn't the Israel Palestine saga sufficient evidence for you that some people simply can not live with each other & their conflicts inevitably involve outsiders to try & settle the situation ? What your arguments portray is that no matter how many humans are killed just so your ideology gets a go ?
The original inhabitants of Australia were constantly engaged in tribal warfare which, since the arrival of outsiders has literally stopped. Only people with your mentality keep tearing at the scab rather than let the wound heal. I think this is one of the most disgusting traits of anyone who claims to be a fellow human.

Indy, nice try at justification, but a total failure.

Why do the people who came here establish the same way of life here as they had back in their old counntry ?
Its the life they know, what they were brought up with etc etc, and as new generations are born they adapt to the local life style more and more.
BTW "counntry"; you in glass house should not throw stones.

How many more innocent would have perished had outside forces not intervened?
How many did the French kill, how many did the Americans and their lackeys kill, how many of each other did the Vietnamese kill. Millions.
Of course if the imperialists/colonialists had allowed self determination for the Vietnamese after WWII as promised, then maybe no one would have been killed.

What makes you think the south Vietnamese would not have been wiped off the map if others had not jumped in?

See above, No South Vietnamese would have died, there would have been no puppet US state of South Vietnam. Just the country of Vietnam, most certainly under the leadership of the nationalist/communists Ho Chi Minh.

Isn't the Israel Palestine saga sufficient evidence for you that some people simply can not live with each other & their conflicts inevitably involve outsiders to try & settle the situation?

The Arabs, and a remnant Jewish population lived harmoniously together for hundreds of years in Palestine (present day Israel) until the British thought it a good way of getting rid of pesky European Jews by handing Palestine over to them at the expense of the Arab population. It was bound to cause trouble.

The original inhabitants of Australia were constantly engaged in tribal warfare. Only if you say so.

Don't Look at this Page: People who had worked for the Yanks, or were traitors to the Vietnamese people through service to the illegitimate puppet government of South Vietnam. But if you have a revised history then believe it by all means.

<Rubbish. They are free to leave. Rich parasites aren`t interested in an egalitarian society>

Gotcha P1405. Love your Communist Propaganda Website. It shows me exactly where you are coming from. It's a pity you don't give out your email address. You would have found "My think Tank Ideas" very interesting.

Jayb your thought not mine, my intention was always to highlight a view that a third force while we have not seen it is going to come.
Labor left split can not bring enough voters to float.
Labor is near the center now, so a right split to would sink.
The very right, that part in the Liberal party not the very extreme smaller than small parties, have enemies within that party.
So what are right policies? as little action on climate change as is possible.
ScoMo tells us future retirees must not rely on pensions
Coal v renewables the right wants coal
offshore detention
What in my view are small l Liberals views? Meet the Paris acord
Plan for more renewables
Stop the boats forever but end offshore detention.
Wealthfare, not mentioned till now, it is my view both Labor and that small l Liberal party I think will emerge, must and will reform the whole area.
Middle Australia wants nothing less
Surely if nothing else we can all agree it is middle Australia that says who will rule this country

Belly: Labor left split cannot bring enough voters to float.

That would be true. Most of Australia, well, over 30, would not vote for a Communistic Labor.
Belly: Labor is near the centre now, so a right split to would sink.

Near Centre but slightly Left of Centre at this stage. Except the Leader, Definitely Hard Left.

Belly: The very right, that part in the Liberal party not the very extreme smaller than small parties, have enemies within that party.

Of course, they do. So does Labor. That’s fairly Par for the Course, don’t you think. The Left & Centrists in the Liberal are frightened of the vocal Politically Correct People & they shouldn’t be because most people in Australia are fed up with the ridiculousness extremes of PC.

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Belly: So what are right policies? as little action on climate change as is possible. Coal v renewables the right wants coal

Some but not all. Like myself. I realize that Climate Change is happening & Renewable energy is coming. But like me these peope, on the Right, realize that it can’t & won’t happen overnight. It will take another 30 years before Coal can be let go in the Energy Market. By then someone will have found a way to utilize Coal differently.

Belly: ScoMo tells us future retirees must not rely on pensions.

Well I can’t see that ever happening. Many people still will not have a big enough Pool to live on in Superannuation no matter how much they put into the Funds. Especially if they are allowed to withdraw & squander their Super.

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Belly: offshore detention.

I agree Off shore detention should never have happened. Labor should be totally ashamed of itself for that move. The people on boats should have been shipped straight back to Indonesia. As soon as they set foot on Australian Soil.

The ones in Detention now have been paid to go elsewhere & they won’t go. It’s no longer Australia’s problem.

Let the UNCHR step in & do the job they get paid for, after all it was their job in the first place to provide them with a Refugee Camp. The reason they didn't is because, according the rules of the UNCHR Convention, they are no longer Refugees.