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The Greens call on Coalition and Labor to back bill to abolish religious schools firing gay students

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Yuyutsu,

BTW: I also am religious. However, I follow
my religion and its teachings. And to prejudge
people and discriminate against them is
against what my religion teaches.

Your religion must be different to mine.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 October 2018 6:12:01 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«I am merely trying to broaden this discussion.

It is a topic worth discussing - with all of its broad range.»

And I concurred.

«Also kindly do not put words into my mouth or speak on my behalf.»

Have you not used the word "we" in "After all we are a secular state"?

This was speaking on MY behalf, because "we" includes myself and I am NOT a state (secular or otherwise), nor is any group I belong to voluntarily.

«I also am religious»

Does your religion allow you to oppress others?
Does your religion allow you to impose secular states and their laws on others?
Does your religion allow you to steal people's money then use it to incarcerate and indoctrinate children?

My religion clearly states that such behaviours are morally wrong and lead away from God.

And BTW, I do not discriminate against homosexual people, why should I?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 15 October 2018 6:24:16 PM
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Is Mise,

A priest-teacher who had a conviction for pedophilia
would presumably have been dealt with by either the
authorities or his church.

Any teacher gay or not - would have to be careful
with what he was advocating if he wanted to keep his
job. He would have to maintain the values of the
school.

As for the Labor Party's policies concerning MPs
crossing the floor? I'm not familiar with their
policies. It's up to the party to make the decisions
regarding this matter. The same goes for the Coalition.

Yuyutsu,

We've argued the subject of laws that all of us are
required to abide by - living in this country - whether
we like it or not. I don't want to go over this topic
again with you. I was not imposing anything on you
simply stating facts. Our state is a secular state.
And there are laws that we are all required to abide by.

If you have a problem with that - you have to find a
way of solving it for yourself. I can't help you.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 October 2018 6:38:25 PM
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Foxy,

I said,

"Do you think that it would be unfair for a religious school to discriminate against a priest-teacher who had a conviction for paedophilia?"

It is not illegal to have a conviction for paedophilia, in fact, it is very legal.

So answer the question.

"Or a homosexual priest-teacher who had publicly advocated the lowering of the age of consent for male teenagers?"

It is not illegal to advocate the lowering of the age of consent,

So answer the question.

"Should the Labor party be forced to end its discrimination against its MPs who cross the floor on a matter of conscience?"

Nothing illegal about that at all.

So answer the question.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 15 October 2018 6:58:53 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

You claim;

“And BTW, I do not discriminate against homosexual people, why should I?”

But you will fight for the freedom to do so if you, or others, choose.

Thus at best you become an enabler, only a step away from the perpetrator.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 15 October 2018 7:02:24 PM
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I think that considering the noise the gay brigade made about ssm, they should now accept that normal people demand gay kids in gay schools only.
That way, this behaviour can't be pushed onto normal kids so they can get on with normal lives.
Posted by individual, Monday, 15 October 2018 7:03:40 PM
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