If one man can only find love in another mans anus, dismisses the female vagina as being of no interest to him, then no, he's not normal.
No matter how much a gay might want or claim to be normal, so as to not feel abnormal, they're not.

Normal is when men and women have sex that potentially results in creating a new life.
Abnormal is when you end up getting poo on yourself.

"So you want to shift them all off to their own institution so that others don't have to associate with them?"

- In a private school where parents paid for and expected a religiously moral education free from political indoctrination, damn right I do.
As for public schools, I'm not sure.

Denial of service based upon the religious views of the institution isn't unreasonable.
It's not discrimination in the same way bullying and victimisation is.
If you don't like it find another school or go to a public one.

Tell me which homosexual is about to kill themselves if they are not permitted to a religious school?
I'll even answer it; a mentally challenged one.
It's more likely its the rich parents of some gay kid who demands their kid is entitled to an expensive private school education, and doesn't give a crap about the schools religion, just its reputation and doesn't want to drive another 4ks down the road.

"Sometimes I really do think a decent slice of your generation are a waste of space now. Life is suppose to be about broadening your understanding of people and their diversity, of being able to walk in the shoes of others, of shedding unsustainable positions, But some of you are having none of it are you."

My position isn't unsustainable, yours is.
I don't seek to force others to adhere to my beliefs.
Your side does.

Ttbn might have the right assessment on this new law. It might be nothing more then a ploy to cause division instead of any issue they are actually seeing done by religous schools.

As for the issue of homosexuality among the students or the teachers. If it is a religious school, (therefore a private one), then the first concern is, what is the religion and what does the religion say concerning homosexuality. Based on that there might some better understanding for their position without having to force them to change their position through the law.

For instance, within Christianity there are two other concerns regarding sins besides to not do them. One is the principle of redemption, that all people sin but they can be saved and can turn from their sins. The second principle is on how to choose an elder which I'd argue can be applied to teachers as well. That they need to be upright and not sinful. If homosexuality is considered a sin to a religious school, then I would think they have a right to hire or fire based on what they deem is right by their beliefs.

That said, this issue should be applied to more then just homosexuality if it is applied, but also to adultery, as well as criminal background checks like being a murderer, or a pedophile.

With both the justification of redemption and choosing leaders that won't teach or cause more sin; these would support being able to fire (or not hire) homosexuals within a Christian religious school, while still allowing students to stay. The letting the kids stay would be on their decision though. Not on the laws force. That is a Christian perspective that can be applied to a Christian school. If there is any justification in other religious schools that's something that can be considered there.

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A second issue is to take into account the individual teachers and students. Looking at how easy or hard it is to find a teaching job should be part of the decision of whether or not their behavior is bad enough to fire them and uproot their life. Since both homosexuality and adultery are sexual sins they should be a good measure of whether either are allowed. If a teacher is discovered to be an adulterer, is that grounds to fire them? If they are then that should also be the standard for homosexuality. If adultery isn't grounds for firing, then neither should be homosexuality. (Unless they are teaching that either adultery or homosexuality is ok to the students).

The same logic can be applied to a student before uprooting them to expel them, like a school can do for disruptive and violent students. If the behavior bad enough to kick them out?

This would again be a decision that is left up to the schools instead of being forced to legally abide by what they don't agree with.
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Lastly, a third concern is on how well a school is teaching the student body they are responsible for. If a religious school teaches and produces terrorists at an alarming rate, then the government has to place their influence to shut them down. Regardless if they are religious or not. Same goes for if the school neglects to teach the students fundamentals to be literate in reading, writing, and math. If at least the basics are not being taught, or aren't being learned, then the government can step in again to tell them to step it up or be shut down. Outside of that, if the school is teaching the students well, and is not helping create a violent generation; then the government should not get involved to discipline the school. It's doing it's job as much as any public school is.

The Greens want to exposes the bigotry and hypocrisy of the religious which has always been evident in church run schools. Its long overdue that these money grabbers that openly discriminate against students and staff on ground of sexual orientation or marital status be pulled into line. The reality is the community will no longer accept bigoted discrimination by religious schools, when it is through taxpayer funding that they are able to operate in the education sphere.
The homophobic bigots, and we have several on the forum, need to realise their war of discrimination against the minority that does not conform to their blinkered morality is lost, and they need to pull their heads in once and for all.

Can we at least say the vote on same sex was won by the yes vote, convincingly?
Then can we include the Royal Commision in to child sex abuse findings? that Churches hid complaints?
That the third highest Roman Catholic is before the courts
Then are we in trying to challenge a dreadful Christian Right insult to some Australians challenging the idea that majority rule, not minorities in part blind to another sides dreadful crimes
The greens led in this case,but know Labor and some Liberals agree, thanks for the thread

So, no examples of perverts being excluded from private schools - just a lot of braying that they shouldn't be, and Christian schools simply have to throw out 2,000 years of beliefs and values because the Reds say so. No mention of the same rules applying to other religions: just the Christian religion. Morrison won't have the guts to tell the Muslims that they must give up their beliefs about homos, and the opposition would not support him if he did. SSM was the thin edge of the wedge, and the Christian-hating commos - Labor and the Greens - are having a field day. Just imagine what they will be like when they get into power next year and don't have to rely on the Liberal party to initiate their policies for them!