//A government that is not of the people by the people for the people is a dictatorship and a tyranny and it's the right and duty of the people within such a tyranny to throw it off if necessary by force.//

OK, when we get a government that refuse to relinquish office after they've been voted out I'll join your militia. Until then, I think that voting remains a preferable method for removing people from office than lining them up against a wall and shooting them. That sounds like violent extremism to me, and decidedly Bolshie. Aren't we supposed to be against that sort of thing?

//There are things we can and should do//

Such as...?

CM, I was not the one that invoked the "Hitler" argument into this debate. Bazz introduced a propaganda 'Youtube', a rather professional one I must say, produced by of all people the Freedom party from far off Austria. It seems this right wing anti Muslim party has gained some traction in Austria. A quick Google and it shows the Austrian Freedom party was formed after WWII by ex-Nazi's. Indy was all in favor of this party, and I assume Bazz and a couple of others as well, and its methods for dealing with Muslims. I'm not familiour enough with the Austrian Freedom party to know exactly how far right they are, or to what extent they would go to control Muslims. But given their origins they could be extremely dangerous. BTW the misrepresentation is by those that claim anyone who is opposed to the curtailment of civil liberties of some Australian's much be pro Islam. Do you believe Toni, Foxy and myself are pro Islam, and the minority of extremist within?

Indy //should sign a statement accepting the conditions & culture// that's it, a rather mediocre, and unnecessary response when we have in place already, laws to deal with those that would transgress. More than one person has been prosecuted and jailed for transgressing Australian law in this regard. Is that not enough for you?

//therefore should sign a statement accepting the conditions & culture.//

They do that verbally, individual. Haven't you ever attended a citizenship ceremony?

http://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/citi/pathways-processes/citi/australian-citizenship-pledge

They do that verbally, individual. Haven't you ever attended a citizenship ceremony?
Toni Lavis,
Is it working ? If it is then wht do we have the conflicts ?
Paul1405,
same for you.
All nice words but these words won't help you were you to venture into an enclave. Do these words prevent competition out-breeding ? These words didn't work in Europe.

//Is it working ? If it is then wht do we have the conflicts ?//

Eh?

First you demand that they make a promise like this:

"I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share,
whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey."

And then when it's pointed out to you that that's exactly what they do, you suddenly decide that's not good enough and shift the goalposts? Why don't you take a little while to decide what you really want, and get back to us?