Josephus, the best counter to the superstitions and mumbo jumbo of religions, is education, which in turn brings economic independence and prosperity. Freedom of expression is a given, just as is democratic freedom and civil liberties, basic rights that religions deny. Organised religion is always strongest where people are the poorest and oppressed, and that includes Christianity.

Indy "please explain". the // treason is no option//. Who is being treasonous?

Indy "please explain". the // treason is no option//. Who is being treasonous?
Paul1405,
Explaining to you is literally a waste of time. Btw, one part of treason is when you go against the nation that feeds you.

Indy, what a laugh, anyone who doesn't support your distorted self centered colonial opinions is labeled treasonous. Wake up Sunshine and look around you, you might actually learn what Australia is all about. It my friend is not the nonsense you espouse, that thinking from a bygone era, but a modern, accommodating and accepting Australia. MUSLIM PEOPLE INCLUDED!

You can do it, if you try!

MUSLIM PEOPLE INCLUDED!

You can do it, if you try!

Paul1405,
I'm closer to Muslims than you care to know. Stop twisting the words, I didn't allude to Muslim people. You're the one doing that. i'm talking about muslims who use decent muslims for their insidious agenda. Just like they use women & children as human shields they also use people to make up numbers in democratic countries by coercing the decent folk to become refugees.
if you can't see that happening then you'll never be able to observe anything or if you do see I can only assume you'e part of the problem.
Take your pick.

//I'm closer to Muslims than you care to know// Claiming an affinity with Muslims are you?

//coercing the decent folk to become refugees.// people become refugees because of circumstances, be it man made through war or persecution, or through natural disasters such as famine. There is no sinister organization coercing people to become refugees. Of the around 70 million refugees in the world about two thirds are displaced within their own boarders. Only 5% of refugees are people seeking political asylum, and even fewer in Australia.
Much of what you claim is the product of a fertile imagination. Things you invent to justify your distorted beliefs. What you fail to realize is the biggest sufferers at the hands of Muslim terrorists, are Muslims themselves, they are killed in far greater numbers than Westerners. If some sinister organization of radicals wants to convert moderate Muslims to their way of thinking, they are not doing a very good job at it. Stop seeing refugees as a product of their own doing, and see them as innocent parties in this whole bloody mess. Then you might get an idea of what's going on in the world.

Paul1405 "There is no sinister organization coercing people to become refugees."

Smugglers coerce people with the promise of riches etc, so according to you smugglers are not sinister organizations, then what are they?

Forgetting economic refugees which a very high percentage are.

Forgetting Soros and others paying for the NGO ships that are being contacted soon after leaving shore to be picked up

Quote "Stop seeing refugees as a product of their own doing, and see them as innocent parties in this whole bloody mess."
So what do you classify Economic refugees as?
They certainly are not innocent victims of anything but greed.