Philip S.,

You've obviously not had to wait for a wheel-chair
or had a child with autism, or being a carer had to
seek respite, or find employment, of had to have
your front-door adjusted so that you could put a key
in the lock to allow you to go in, and the list goes
on. The cost of putting perfectly capable people
into nursing homes instead of helping live normal
lives is far greater on the taxpayer's dollars.
And is better for society all round.

Foxy My comment was directed to Aidan regarding his claim "but it will pay for itself in the long run". Which is rubbish and gave some reasons why.

You jump in totally off the context of the comment, can you please show me which part or parts of my comment relate to yours?

Philip S,
Your "reasons why" are not genuine reasons; they're pathetic excuses!

Yes, fixing home accessibility can cost tens of thousands of dollars. But over their working lives, people will earn far more, and most will pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes.

And with ambulance-chasing lawyers, you're really clutching at straws. Currently people engage them because otherwise of a perception that the money from winning a lawsuit will be the best chance at a decent quality of life. With the NDIS ensuring they'll have a decent quality of life whatever happens, it's likely to reduce the demand for lawyers.

And I'm flummoxed as to how you think con men could capitalise on the NDIS. Do you have anything in mind? Or is it just an attempt at scaremongering.

You seem to have baulked at the cost of the NDIS because of your own selfishness, and turned your brain off at that point! Well turn it back on again! You'll see that Foxy's comment is entirely relevant.

Or are you really so stupid that you'd rather put disabled people into nursing homes than have them in the workforce?

Aidan - Quote "Your "reasons why" are not genuine reasons; they're pathetic excuses!"

What is pathetic is your reply.

Quote "most will pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes." What occupations do you base this creative figure on?

Quote "how you think con men could capitalise on the NDIS" Head buried in the sand answer Please name one Government scheme that gives money to people that has not had scammers and cons, making it easy for you just one?

Lets take 1 state Queensland as at 31 March 2018 - 14,612 people are benefiting from the NDIS Reality check the majority or a very very high percent will not get jobs that will enable them to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax as you claim, if you honestly believe they will you are delusional.

Will not bother with you last sentence it just proves your ignorance.

Philip S,
In what way do you think it proves my ignorance rather than yours?

>What occupations do you base this creative figure on?
I'm not basing it on any particular occupation, but on people remaining in the workforce for decades. And with wages rising, I don't see it as hard to achieve. If you do, perhaps you'd like to suggest an alternative and explain why?

>Please name one Government scheme that gives money to people that has not had scammers and cons, making it easy for you just one?
That's a fair point. I'd thought the NDIS, being more focussed on service provision, would be a lot harder to fiddle than most government schemes, but I concede it could happen.

> Reality check the majority or a very very high percent will not get jobs that will enable them to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax as you claim
That's not a reality check, that's conjecture. What assumptions are you making about wages, hours, and years in the workforce?

Pot calling the kettle black? maybe it is, but my spell in the paddock has changed me, wandered around failed disgusion sites and then found facebook, nothing came near this place, well maybe facebook, in relation to insulting each other only,why do we do it? I do it? we all do, why? we will not push our point down each others throats we are too fixed in our own thoughts for that, yes just a couple seem to come to insult, anyone, but mostly we are better than that, why do we do it?