Come to think of it: Shorten also lied that the liars now trying to get the seats back had nothing to answer for on the matter of dual citizenship - before they were caught out for liying. ALP = Australian Liars Party.

Name any political parties that have not suffered
the consequences of Dual Citizenship. One Nation?
Liberals, Nationals, any?

So they're ALL Liars?

' Name any political parties that have not suffered
the consequences of Dual Citizenship. One Nation?
Liberals, Nationals, any?

So they're ALL Liars?'

Foxy you are finally starting to get it.

'But let God be true, and every man a liar'

individual,
Removal of National Service was extremely positive for younger Australians, as it removed a terrible ordeal that could be very dangerous according to the whims of the government of the day.

Free Uni meant that lots more people could acquire the skills to do high value work.

It is really astounding that anyone would oppose these reforms at all, let alone claim them to have undermined our society to an unrecoverable degree!

If we had things your way, I would not have become an Australian citizen. Which leaves me to wonder: is that your point?

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Philip S, why do you consider the costs but not the benefits?

Far from being a potentiality bomb, the NDIS is designed to make disabled people more productive so they can contribute more to society. Though the human wellbeing factors alone would IMO justify the expense of NDIS, its main significance will be the economic growth (and consequent extra tax revenue) it brings.

Nation building (whether NDIS, NBN or Gonski) costs money, but it will pay for itself in the long run.

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Amazing, runner, you've actually posted the truth!

No fan of Gillard, but, without her this country would never ever have had * A Royal Commision* into child abuse, CONSERVATIVES said it was not needed and did not want it!

Aidan Quote "but it will pay for itself in the long run"

Rubbish NDIS will never pay for itself, tens of thousands of dollars per some people to fix home accessibility, a lot more carers, and etc are just like public servants they do not generate revenue they just suck up taxpayer money.

Then you will have the lawyers ambulance chasing, that generates wealth for them self.

Then how long before the criminals and con men come in with there scams