Dear ALTRAV,

You claim “Unlike you, I do not attack someone for speaking their mind”

Of course you do but that is not the point. I am actually relieved you are speaking your mind. It enables others to see you for what you are, highly egotistical, deeply misogynistic and uncaring about animals.

You comments are not those of a normal person and I keep calling them out so you don't ever get the notion that the things you are saying is reasonable or civil or normal. They aren't.

You have issues that require the attention of a professional. Your repeated labeling of women who threaten your sense of masculinity as maggots is indicative of someone who is prepared to dehumanise women which is often seen in those who do women harm.

There is little you have said which convinces me you wouldn't be one of them.

Steeley, 'ET TU'.
If we must go off topic again, fine.
Be it on your head when the forum police comes 'a callin'.
OK let's see, you have decided to stand with the marshmellows and soft cocks, fine.
Just as I have shown myself to stand up for what is right, you have decided to go with all things wrong.
I won't bother with the character assassination which is part of your lot's 'daily bread'.
Because you are blind to the 'real' world like the others, you refuse to accept that I AM normal.
In your haste to runeth the mouth off you did not stop to familiarise yourself with my 'speak'.
Had you remembered to put your brain in gear before you engaged your mouth and screamed off with both wheels spinning abuse, you would have seen that the 'Maggots' I refer to are the troublesome 'females' that have ruined society and the sanctity of marriage.
NOT the WOMEN!
The women are just fine.
So re-program that lefty, 'male' brain of yours and learn to see what is being said, not what you think is being said.
As for me I will keep telling those of your elk that I am all there and know exactly what to say and do.
You see unlike you and the other 'children' out there I don't care what people say about me or what they call me.
If you truly have read my posts, you should have that little fact well and truly burned in your, OH sorry you may not have the mental capacity for certain information.
Ah well keep talking amongst yourselves, as you are the only ones who believe in your load of crap.
The rest of us 99% will keep calling a spade a spade, a queer a queer, a maggot a maggot, ans so on.
Oh I do hope you get the drift.

Dear ALTRAV,

Oh I most certainly get your drift and have done for a while.

You say you don't care about animal suffering at all. There aren't many people who would admit to that degree of lack of empathy. It isn't normal nor healthy. That is why I will continue to flag it.

At least go and talk to someone about it.

Steeley, listen to yourself.
I don't have to see anybody.
Mate it is you who needs to see someone and soon.
Why do you insist on these personal attacks especially when you are told over and over again to stay on topic.
Keep it up, you'll get the arse anytime soon.
I think you've run your course on this topic, so you can move on now.
I think we all get that you are devoid of any real life experiences.
As for me not having sympathy for animals; if I'm OK with it what's it got to do with you?
So according to you just because someone sees animals as just that, they are bad people with no sympathy.
Mate if you want to harbour an animal, for no good reason other than if you have a farm or station or are blind and so on, that's your business.
As I don't, it is therefore my business and not open to criticism by you or anyone else.
You have demonstrated that you have no information or facts to challenge my comments, just like the rest of your group.
Therefore as you've not had any viable and relevant information on this topic, I think you ran your course a while ago.
Given there is no more to be said on this topic, I will leave you to talk to the mirror, as it is the only one who will agree with you.
On to the next bunch of students.

No need to panic! we can get back on topic in a second, if the live export must continue, me thinks it should not, get every sheep in to a disposable plastic bag! those not living in NSW may not be seeing the debate about this issue, a debate that refuses to even glimpse at the big question, what at the very end of its life becomes of this new plastic bag

I got a free 15c Woolies bag yesterday, when I stopped in to grab a few things.
I've steered clear of the place for the last week or so but had pretty much decided I'd pay their 15c extortion and continue using them as bin bags afterwards.
So now twice as much plastic from the bags will go in landfill because there's more plastic in these bags.

They're not even really good as bin bags either, the handles are different, and it occurs to me that now a few million or more of those wireframed bag holders with the plastic lids that go on your cupboard door and make use of those previous bags will end up in landfill now as well.

And what about the 'bag bags'?
- Specifically made to hold our bags for re-use.

It occurs to me that this concept of 'single use bag' is total deceitful lying bs to begin with.

They know people will buy the bags.
They know some people will pay whatever it costs for what they need.
And the also know that many people, especially busy mother's with large trolleys aren't going to bring their own bags, and others will never put food in a bag used previously.

And they get a big logo on the side of the bag meaning we're paying for their advertising.

The fact they both do it virtually at the same time feels like collusion.
(Thanks Bilderbergers)

We have products and businesses built specifically around the second-use of those old bags, like a finely tuned system that did work.

So my original opinion that this idea is currently the record holder for "dumbest idea in the country, ever" still stands.
But I'm sure it won't be long till there's something new.