Dear Hasbeen,

You wrote;

“Steely, like all those marine researchers in Townsville, your end of the earth vet was probably looking for a research grant. He also failed to mention Sydney is way out of turtle living range. Any weak enough to have been swept down the coast by the east coast current were not likely to survive, & may have grabbed at anything to get something in its stomach.”

Bloody hell mate you have set yourself up time and time again as some marine/barrier reef/naval expert and you think sea turtles only get as far as Sydney if they are sick.

The leatherback turtle's migratory range even goes below Tasmania. On rare occasions they even rock up into
port Phillip Bay;

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-20/endangered-leatherback-turtle-spotted-in-port-phillip-bay/5981088

The Great Barrier Reef's Green Turtle's range extends below Sydney as does the Loggerhead sea turtle. The green turtles graze on the sea grasses within the harbour;

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/for-the-citys-sea-turtles-survival-still-hangs-in-the-balance-20100407-rsax.html

You really do need to stop making these things up as you go. It is not a good look.

Dear ALTRAV,

You wrote;

“I care not for the small INSIGNIFICANT number of wildlife that happen upon these things and die.”

Of course you don't because if you did it would display a maturity we both know you do not possess. It is part of developmental psychology. As an infant you are primarily concerned about your own needs. After a while you grow to care about those of your immediate family, then villiage, then state/country, then others outside your county, then on to other species.

I repeatedly invite you to grow up and perhaps one day you will. Today is not that day.

ALTRAV,

No real reason at all, it just makes a bit more profit.

Steeley, it is sad when people like you and Foxy display your in-ability to see the real world as it is, and not as you think it should be.
It's not me who is immature.
You like some others, say something and we're all supposed to believe it because you say so.
Now back to topic.
Instead of talking like a mindless child, how about you justify why I should give a crap about the very, very few creatures that die by the hand of plastic, as opposed to the millions of creatures we kill as part of our food intake.
Do you see how irrelevant you and your mates are?
You all carry on like children over the death of some sheep on a ship, where the environment is far better than on some remote back stretch of a sheep station where it's 150 in the water bag, but you refuse to admit the obvious because you are all immature, petty brainless children.
None of you are smart enough to realise that the animals that died, were sick and would have died anyway.
Or is that not possible because you say so?
The lies you all tell and the truths you all stretch just to win your pathetic agenda.
If you are so concerned about these creatures being killed by plastic, get off your arses, and start cleaning things up.
That's how you do something about it, not sit in your comfortable chairs in your nice little rooms spewing out ignorant rants.
Morons!
I at least am a realist and tell it like it is, un-embellished and unashamed.
I am being honest and truthfull, by saying I don't give a crap.
You and your lot are a bunch of sanctimonious BS pushers.
So put your money where your big mouths are, put on your coats and get out there and save the planet.
NO?
I didn't think so.
In future if someone says they don't give a crap, thank him for being honest, not bag him because your too stupid to actually accept that they might be right.
MORONS!

Dear ALTRAV,

It isn't like you have feelings about either which is why I quite reasonably made the call on your lack of maturity, or perhaps arrested development. All you seem to really care about is yourself and your ego which is obviously extremely fragile and is why you are so troubled by women who 'don't know their place'.

A deep misogynist who doesn't care how animals are treated rings more than a few bells my friend. It is a repeating theme of which you are inordinately smug about. Again I advise seeking help.

Steely, again I care not what you say.
Unlike you, I do not attack someone for speaking their mind, I just respond to the veracity of what they say, unless they attack me first.
Now because your comments are your opinion, and as usual based on little or no facts, your wasting your time.
If I say I don't give a crap about a few creatures killed by plastic, does not mean you have a monopoly on physico-analysing anyone.
You have not demonstrated that your opinions are in any way relevant.
You are supposed to respond to my comment with reasons why the death of a few fish matter, in the greater scheme of things.
Not rave and rant incessantly like a nut job, off topic.
Now either respond on topic or, like yourself and the rest of the marshmellows, shut up.
If you wish to continue, the topic is, 'Single use Plastic'.
Thank you.

You know ALTRAV does make a pretty good argument in regards to the sheep.
(Not that I'm saying I agree though).
Why do we care about their welfare when their purpose was to be killed and eaten anyway?
Let's change things around, and make it people instead of animals.
Let's pretend I'm Hannibal Lector and you people are all invited to the dinner party.
The stupidity of it all is despite the fact everyone knows Hannibal likes to kill and eat people, your primary complaint is the conditions of the mini bus ride that came to pick you up.
- All seems pretty dumb right ? -

That said I do care about the welfare of animals we export.
But facts are you can ship more if you pack them like sardines, and it doesn't matter what the % mortality is, it doesn't matter if half the animals die and or are thrown to the sharks sick and dying. As long as the overall venture is still profitable and some rich people still get their lamb chops.
That's how the world really works right, it all comes down to money first not care of animals, which seems to come second.