Armchair Critic you may, in my view do, have some thing there, if the average person just looked at that group he/she may even wake up! an unlikely event but we can hope and indy? please tell me what people throwing rubbish in to our streams rivers roads, using consume and then throw away items has to do with those you want us to name?

has to do with those you want us to name?
Belly,
It has everything to do with it because it includes all of us.

no problem indy you and I are not meant to understand each other,

Belly,
Come to think of it we're all part of this waste/polution thing wether we like it or not. Where we all differ is by our carbon footprint.
I know people who become really fanatic about their waste at home but on the other hand they have no qualms flying around the world, live in airconditioned comfort, enjoy food & commodities, all produced by huge carbon food print industry. Millions upon millions wouldn't even have a job if it weren't for petroleum used to produce plastics for computers etc.
The Plant can handle polution but just not as much as we plague it with.

Sorry but if you read all contributions to this single issue it seems clear we can not handle even it, a single step in a long trip to stop polluting our planet,yes humanity has an impact on every thing it touches and yes some could not care less this thread was meant to highlight the fact this was never going to be a real effort to fix a problem but just another sway to get in to our wallet