ALTRAV.

Of course, some of the sheep were sick, we all know that farmers send sick sheep to market and that the Inspectors and those from the RSPCA are all in the pay of the farmers and turn a blind eye.

The sheep on shipboard that were shewn up to their necks in liquid manure were too sick to swim so were drowning in the fluid excrement.

Is Mise, I hope you were attempting some humour.
'Up to their necks in liquid manure'?
YUK, trying to even picture it invokes some dry reaching.
No seriously.
What you describe is physically impossible.
The fact that they may be standing in sewage at times is possible until they wash the pens out, which is part of the routine.
If you take a snapshot of the pens at their worst, you will see the yucky mess.
Moments later it's clean again.
The post wash pics aren't quite as damaging as the pre-wash ones, so we only get to see the bad ones so as to help the tree huggers try to con people into believing them and their agenda.
I tell you what, next time you go to the loo, take a pic of the bowl after you've done a poo.
Yucky right?
Then take a pic just after you flush.
Boring right?
Well that pretty much sums up the tree huggers.
They prefer to be associated with poo than with reality.

rechtub here we differ like another post I re used my bags, even chopped them up under the mower and put them in the compost, we differ because I firmly think we need to re use, cost or no cost, right nor the re used milk bottle water use or not would be a positive in my view, all bottles if re filled would at least be better than land fill, as much money can be made in sustainable use as current single use if we are prepared to pay, its the total fraud we currently see in recycles still ending up in land fill that irks me PS water after use can be re used too

"Is Mise, I hope you were attempting some humour.
'Up to their necks in liquid manure'?"

No, not humour but satire, which seems to have gone over your head,
but the pics of the sheep struggling to keep their heads above the liquid excrement were shewn on TV and were, in part, what prompted the prompt ban on the company continuing live exports.

Is Mise, really?
What program were you watching.
You've got it waaaaaaay wrong.
These ships are not huge swimming pools, I ought to know.
They are open sided so that the animals get fresh air flowing through the holding pens.
I think you may be confusing the car carriers with the sheep ships.
The car carriers are completely enclosed.
They have to be to protect the cars from the high seas.
The sheep pens get washed when necessary as well.
Mate you have to understand that if someone is going to make a story out of something they are not going to tell or show the 'real' story, because if they did, there would be no story.
Think about it.
I'm telling you, I cannot come up with a single scenario where the sheep are neck deep in anything.
Unless we speak of the eradication baths they put them through but that's part of the drenching and de-parasiting process.
I'm sorry Is Mise, it appears you've been had.
This is exactly the kind of manipulation of the facts that the sick tree hugging bastards resort to, to try to make their point.
No sorry mate.
No treading neck deep in sheepshit here.
Just doesn't happen.

ALTRAV,

There is so much available on the web I suggest
you Google some of it before you post.
Here's just one small item from Animals Australia on
what's it like on a live export ship. The photos are real.

http://www.animalsaustralia.org/features/whats-it-like-on-a-live-export-ship.php