but whoever is there now is recognised as the owners, legitimate holders
Loudmouth,
I agree with that,but why then do so many Aus, NZ, Papua etc keep rewinding the tradititonal owner argument & demand ongoing compensation ?

Individual,

You make the common assumption that land was taken from Indigenous people here by the act of settlement/invasion/whatev. No. From the outset, Philip recognised the rights of Aboriginal people to use the land as they always had done. Here in SA, that right was implicit from before settlement/inv/whatev, and made explicit in the Pastoral Act of 1850, with a specific clause written into every pastoral lease.

It is still the law: the rights of Indigenous people in SA to use the land as they always had done, except that now people have to apply to an Aboriginal Committee (in fact, I have a suspicion that almost no-one has applied, since no-one hunts [except by rifle and Toyota as Albert Namatjira used to do back in the thirties] or gathered except maybe up in the North-West).

But we do live in Enlightened times, Individual, in which it is not seen as proper to seize land from people and drive them off one way or the other. Brute force is not always the way. Please try to keep up with the Enlightenment and the rights that it confers on everybody :)

Joe

Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

My Deepest Sympathy on the loss of your father.

"Eternal Rest grant to him, O Lord
And let perpetual light shine on him
May he rest in peace.
Amen."

It is always difficult to lose a parent.
They are so much a part of our lives.
Stay strong and know that he's in a better place.

Hi there LOUDMOUTH...

Dear Joe...please accept my most profound condolences for the recent passing of your Dad in NZ. Take care old mate.

Dear Foxy & O Sung Wu,

Thank you so much for your kind words. He was 94, and if I reach that age, I'd think I'd had a good run, all things considered. But sadly, his last hours were quite dreadful, so he's at peace now.

Thank you again, my friends :)

Joe

yes me too loudmouth thinking of you, Paul your thread got us talking, as is always the case about many things, we share many concerns and in the end in my view that is a good thing