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Dying For Nothing

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Foxy,

It is not difficult nor unpopular to be pro-Palestinian, it just needs a profound selective amnesia (to completely forget all the war crimes and aggression on the part of the palestinians) with a smidgeon of anti-semitism that you will find embedded in the left whinge parties along with other failed beliefs such as Marxism and identity politics.

That Gaza is sealed off from Israel so harshly is due to the decades of Hamas and the PLO using any relaxation of border control to send terrorists through the border to bomb, stab and kill Israeli civilians and using foreign aid to restock with guns and rockets.

Peaceful negotiations can take place once Hamas and Fatah agree to negotiate without wildly unrealistic pre conditions.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:33:57 AM
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Australians who are pro-Palestinian really should take a hard look at themselves. These evil Muslims are sworn to wipe out a country just like Australia. When the Australian government and opposition bilaterally support Israel, and always have, because it makes sense to support countries with values the same as ours against Islam, you really have to call into question the mental states of the pro-Palestinian mob.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:57:28 AM
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Foxy,

Then how does anyone know?

For it to have been a sniper's bullet someone would have had to have been behind the sniper to see where he/she aimed.

The bullet could have been a ricochet, how to tell without a forensic examination of the projectile?

There is a solution to the problem, let all the peace loving Muslim nations take the "Palestinians" as refugees.
Problem solved and they can all live happily together under Islamic rule.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 11:28:53 AM
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Dear Foxy,

I believe I'm going to need you help with this one.

I did as you suggested and read the quote again and I think age must be catching up with me because for the life of me I can't see how I have “totally misunderstood what was being said”.

You might find this enlightening. Roy Morgan polled Australians on the Israel/Palestine question and the results showed markedly more support for the Palestinians over the Israelis. Over 60% oppose the illegal settlements, over 70% want Palestine recognised as an independent state and over half deem the BDS movement as reasonable.

Just to illustrate how toxically one sided this can get just have a look at CHERFUL's post about Brigitte Gabriel. He gets her name wrong but those niceties are tossed out the window when you are determined to condone murderers.

Brigitte Gabriel is a Lebanese Chrisitian who worked as a news anchor on the ultra-conservative Pat Robertson's Christian network. Her claim to be a journalist is rather fraught as her Wikipedia page shows no qualifications in that area. Her story of spending 7 years in a bomb shelter avoiding snipers just to get a drink is absolute rubbish and multiple checks of her story find deep inconsistencies. But she is being paid hansomely for being a mouth piece for the 'largest grassroots anti-muslim' organisation in the States.

CHERFUL claims her made up tribulations were “because of the cruelty of the Palestinians, who blew up her home”. Look how it reads, as though they had done this on purpose. Yet even in Gabriel's own account in 1975 a Palestinian militia bombed a military facility near Marjayoun, destroying her childhood home. She talks of being helped by Christian militia.

Cont...
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 8:56:22 PM
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Cont...

But what is utterly sickening is while CHERFUL is using it to condemn 'cruel Palestinians' there is no mention of the terrible slaughter of mainly Palestinian women and children who perished in the Sabra and Shatila Massacres later in the war. The refugee camps were surrounded by the Israeli army then the militia who were trained and supplied by Israel went in and slaughtered around 3000 people. There was little resistance as the PLO had withdrawn from the area under the supervision of the Multinational Force.

By CHERFUL's metric the incidental bombing a family home is allows the charge of cruelty then how much more should these massacres condemn Israel and the Christian militias?

Do you not see the disconnect?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 8:56:50 PM
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Do you not see the disconnect?
SteelReedux,
The disconnect from logic there has been clear as daylight to the rest of the world for centuries, the only ones who can't see it are the people who don't want to see it..
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 8:18:40 PM
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