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Dying For Nothing

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Foxy,

I link to many different websites, of all persuasions, I do notice that having shredded your argument that Steven Salaita was not racist, you have avoided the topic.

SR, having hit rock bottom is now digging.

Having challenged me to provide proof, I found the mikereport website with screen dumps of a few of his bigoted tweets, which shredded your argument. There are plenty of racist tweets several of which I have mentioned previously.

"Zionists: transforming anti-semitism from something horrible to something honourable since 1948." is a clear admission of his racism.

As for the use of the word "Charged" I would guess that the author was implying that the grounds for SS's dismissal from the University was his racist tweets.

SR do you believe that anti-semitism is honourable?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 7:47:02 PM
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Shadow Minister,

You have not proven anything of the kind and you're sounding
somewhat desperate. You don't even realise - how does
one conduct a critical debate on the Israeli-Palestinian
conflict without stirring the wrath of students, lecturers,
academic organisations and even donors on both sides of
the divide. How on earth in this complex situation are
we truly going to get a fair assessment. All one can do is
take sides - and having lived and worked in the US - I know
which is the easier side to take if you want to keep your job.
If you dare to critique - you get tarnished and regarded as
a traitor. The message is clear - anyone who dares to
criticise Israel loses their job receives threats and abuse -
you're either with us or against us.

It's best to leave well enough alone - as Steven Salaita
learned the hard way.

So cut the BS. Best to let this one go. It's not a win-win
situation.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 8:05:15 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Finally. See that wasn't all that difficult was it. So this is the quote you find most clearly paints the man as a rabid anti-Semitic;

"Zionists: transforming anti-semitism from something horrible to something honourable since 1948."

But you didn't reproduce it fully did you. Here is the actual quote;

“Zionists: transforming "antisemitism" from something horrible into something honorable since 1948.”

Note the quotation marks around antisemitism.

They are like the quotation marks around words in these tweets of his around the same period. They do not delegitimise the word but rather its illegitimate use.

"Israel has even bombed a few cemeteries. You know, just to make sure the "terrorists" are really dead.”

“Next time a Zionist asks you to "dialogue," remind him that you heard everything he had to say when #Israel was murdering children in #Gaza.”

Salaita is trying to highlight the illegitimate appropriation of the word anti-semitic by Zionists. That does not make him a rabid anti-semitic at all.

This was a tweet from him in the same month.

“I refuse to conceptualize #Israel/#Palestine as Jewish-Arab acrimony. I am in solidarity with many Jews and in disagreement with many Arabs. “

Hardly a rabid anything. This was Salaita's explanation of his original tweet;

“I’m not anti-Semitic. Twitter conversations happen in a specific moment of time, and they only stand for a minor part of an overall narrative. Conceptualizing criticism of the behavior of a nation-state as anti-Semitism is not only a stupid thing to do but it alters, at least passively, the meaning of anti-Semitism and it ends up devaluing the actual instances of hate crimes against Jews that still happen around the world. In fact, many of my tweets over the summer were making the distinction between anti-Semitism and the ability to criticize Israel.”

Now I suspect your response to this will be utterly dismissive since you have shown yourself to be incapable of any kind of nuance on this issue but I thought I would give it a try.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:15:32 PM
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Foxy,

SS's many anti-Israeli publications were well known when he was offered the tenure, it was his racist social media posts that got him fired, and pretty much banned from every campus in the US and the EU, and the university said so.

I have a colleague who lectures at a university in the US and only a year ago he told me that the pendulum at the universities there has swung far towards the Palestinians, so the claim that SS was fired because of anti-zionist feelings alone is laughable.

SR,

I am amazed that you claim read SS's mind. Most sane humans would not find your mealy-mouthed interpretation even slightly plausible.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 9:41:23 AM
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Shadow Minister,

I have several colleagues in the top universities in the
US - all in very high administrative positions who
totally contradict your claims.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 10:46:50 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

No I don't claim to read his mind rather I returned the punctuation you had deliberately left out in order to bolster your slander.

This was a duplicitous act and you got caught.

The question is why? This wasn't a passive act from you; just falling in lockstep with your clique, but rather something someone would do if they had thoroughly bought into a Zionist mindset that they felt no compunction about distorting facts.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 3:39:09 PM
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