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Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 10 June 2018 11:15:57 AM
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Shadow Minister, Zionism is being challenged around the world like never before. It's time Jews recognise that the old strategies no longer work. It is still far too politically and morally convenient for Zionist groups to continue to portray Israel as "disenfranchised" rather than as a global power. And it is unfortunate that people seem to make no distinction between an occupied people and those who occupy them. Israel talks about the right of self-defence. How can an occupier claim self-defence but deny the same right to those who are occupied and have the right to self-defence with whatever means are available to them? Still I suppose it is much easier for some to be pro- Israel than to be pro-Arab. One has to continuously explain and defend why one is taking that particular position. It's an uphill battle for some people to unlearn years of Zionist propaganda. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 10 June 2018 11:30:04 AM
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Dear Foxy,
Shadow Minister, who is not Jewish it seems, is not just toeing the Israeli line but is showing a deep embrace of ultra-Zionistic stances. It can be sometimes rather hard to comprehend the conviction with which he labels people critical of Israel as rabidly anti-Semitic especially since it is coming from a gentile with seemingly no skin in the game. It is rather confronting to see such ordinary Australians being so captured by such blatant propaganda often driven by university students tasked and paid for by the Israeli government. To SM it is perfectly fine to label someone rabidly anti-Semitic not because of the words out of that person's mouth but rather because he has been told to do so, not directly of course but rather implicitly, by the pro-Israeli lobby. The sheer mindlessness of it is breath taking. You seem to enjoy researching Foxy. I'm wondering if you can find anything from Steven Salaita that you would consider anti-Semitic? I certainly haven't but would like to see if I am being blind to the obvious. Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 10 June 2018 12:11:36 PM
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SM,
The lunatic Left, with its nasty anti-Semitism is never going to be convinced; they are not worth bothering with. Their theories about Jews are the mad rantings of losers. Adolf Hitler would have loved them; the Muslims do love them. They are nothing but useful idiots, frustrated weirdos, and the dag ends of society Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 10 June 2018 2:19:02 PM
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ttbn,
If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person on the planet. Dear Steele, I found quite a few links on Steven Salaita that may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Salaita_controversy And - http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/downfall-phyllis-wise-shows-high-cost-doing-israel-lobbys-bidding I guess this confirms what was being stated earlier. It all depends on which "side" you're on. It confirms just how powerful the Zionist lobby is - especially in the US. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 10 June 2018 2:34:29 PM
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Dear Foxy,
Thank you. I had seen the Wikipedia article. Was there any of his quotes that were listed within which you would deem as radically anti-Semitic? If they were the extent of evidence against him then the charge can not be sustained. And thank you for the second link. It was interesting to read of a similar attack on Professor Massad of Columbia University. "After the months of inquisition to which Massad was subjected, the Dirks committee concluded that the allegations were unsubstantiated and there was no evidence of anti-Semitism." I suspect if a similar inquiry was held into Steven Salaita then the findings would be the same. Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 10 June 2018 2:52:11 PM
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Now you're quoting the usual Israeli line.
It's wearing thin for most people.