NNN - Josephus, it depends on whose version is considered. If you depend on your biblical version or dogma what makes it right. Jews are not waiting for the end of the world, but centuries ago, being under occupation by the pagan Romans, it was the end of the world as they knew it. Wake up. I mean the Davidians in WACO, Texas, sponsored by the SDA American church, thought the end of the world was nigh, and their leader was the Messiah, and they would survive and be the new people while others and other religions perished. Well they did, tragically they thought there leader had miraculous powers and was the 'lamb of God' while he was committing statutory rape with young under age girls. Heavens Gate, Jones town. I just feel I can not understand such blind faith with these so called religious leaders. Sorry, it depends on who is telling the story. It's the singer not the song.

If Jesus is the Messiah Or even God... then the universal pointer to that is the truth in their words, if even they are their words.

Moses and the other nutjobs who imagined up the Bible made up the lies you guys believe are from God just to justify their evil ways. It's a shame on you that you believe these crazies...but you do!

The more likely explanation for the virgin birth rubbish (lol) is that Joseph got Mary pregnant and concocted the story to cover up the crime. Mary could have been stoned to death for being unmarried and in that condition. This is simple stuff! What better than an angel coming to Mary and it being divine intervention...lmao

Jesus either lied quite a deal or simply didn't know the truth but you guys are too scared to accept it.

He never taught about bacteria, viruses and chemical imbalances causing brain problems because he simply didn't know about these things.

He blamed demons, satan or evil spirits because that was the depth of knowledge at the time.

Furthermore even though hell doesn't exist he tried to scare [people using hellfire and damnation and threats. Gnashing your teethe for eternity in the sulphur lakes of hell is a pretty big threat.

I know you guys love fairy stories but you are allowed to think!

So as hell and Satan don't exist, and Jesus mentioned them in his false justifications, he either is lying or he didn't know much about superstitious rubbish.

So what is it is Jesus deliberately and intentionally lying and refusing to tell the truth OR didn't he know about these things?

You guys still believe in talking snakes but you know they don't exist. You consider yourselves smart enough to know that don't you?

Your positions are infantile bordering on the insane...

There are so many flaws in your Bible and yet you just totally ignore them because your superstitions are more powerful than you brains.

It's time for people to wake up! Talking snakes and virgin births... next you'll believe in the rapture...lmao

Opinionated. It's so good that your back. For a moment I though we could be free from your slander and lies. Possibly even go back to the original topic. No? Aw well you know what they say about hopes and wishes. ... You've had some concerns about my answers before. So here is a short reply. Concerning the Trinity, I gave you my answer. One that you've ignored and made up your own answer that was credited to me. ENOUGH with your ongoing lies and slander to suit yourself. Is anything you say based on truth? Or do you make everything up as you go? Did any of the experiences you say happen to you really happen or have you lied about those as well? You call them amazing, and I'm sure to you they are ( if they are true). But to me, there are many amazing stories in people's lives, and they are often unnoticed and overshadowed by someone else bragging about their "amazing" experience. So I disagreed. It is unique. It is unlike any other story I've heard because none that I know of have an agreement between multiple people. But is it true? Is anything you say anything but what comes out of your imagination? Just as your criticisms on Christianity have no merit outside of the stories you make up with nothing creditable to replace what was written; it might be the same with your "experiences." That would definitely explain how you can have those experiences and still not know that an afterlife (of some kind) exists. Because the lies don't suit you any more, so you discard them.

To Bush Bunny. My name is not NNN, nor is that an abbreviation of my name. Make note because serves no purpose to be insulting and because detail matter. With regard to your quarry of John's preaching, and to the Jews understanding. These things are not a matter of "it depends" any more then asking how Australia feels about same sex marriage. There was a poll about that recently right? A measure to say what is supported what isn't any how much of the population represents each. If you were asked how Australia feels about SSM the answer wouldn't be "it depends" because there is an answer and it was recently sought through a vote. In the same way, the views of Jews in the time of Jesus don't depend on anything except what was really true. If we have any means to know what those views were (such as from historians, Jewish understanding and Jewish texts) then we can have an answer for that question. But the answer is not "it depends."

Look into it yourself if you're interested, see if the information you find out comes to the same conclusions I've found. Israel was waiting for a savior to save them out of Roman oppression, but God gave them a promise that He's so far kept. He will not abandon them or let them die off. And through out history Israel through the Jewish people have not disappeared even though they've been dispersed throughout the world and until recently never had a home of their own. Therefore they weren't then nor are they now looking for a Savior at the end of the world as the false prophets and preachers you've mentioned have said that they were. The Jews were (and still are) waiting for a messiah to deliver Israel and restore them. Don't take my word for it, and don't buy into the "it depends" when considering what's true and what isn't. If it matters to you look into it yourself. And pay attention to the details, because the details matter.

To anyone else who is still interested in the topic of life after death. I will share one more experience. When I was young, I had a head injury and went into a coma for two weeks. During that time, doctors kept me under their care while my parents and the communities that they knew had me prayed for me to come out of the coma. My experience is a short dream that I had. It was my earliest memory, and basically is my parents walking into a white room, picking me up from a white bed and carrying me out of the dream scene. I then woke up. To me this dream is God's way of saying He gave me back to my parents, and is the beginning of my interests of people's experiences of an afterlife.

I wish there were more here to share when their family passed on how they were connected with that person briefly to then know that that person is ok now. There are other kinds of experiences. Rare NDEs experiences, experiences in comas, people weeks before they die seeing someone who had passed away give them company and comfort, and many more. These are not so rare occurrences that we should be blind to a reality that something exists for us after we die. Even if we don't know what that after life will be like, we can know that there is something. Doubt my experience if you like. But it is among many other experiences that people have concerning an afterlife. Something is there for us after we pass on.

//My experience is a short dream that I had.//

Oh Gods, we're backing to banging this stupid drum again are we?

I thought we had already established through examples of my dreams that dreams do not necessarily involve any bearing upon objective reality, including dreams of deceased family members.

Do you have any new compelling evidence to suggest otherwise?