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Ban Political Donations From The Gun Lobby 

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Is Mise,

I don't have to say anything. The facts are freely
available:

http://time.com/5160267/gun-used-florida-school-shooting-ar-15/

And now, I've lost interest!
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 March 2018 6:28:26 PM
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Foxy,

Those aren't the facts about assault rifles, you have all been led astray because you are so lacking in knowledge that you will accept anything that the media feeds you.

Here is the US Army's definition, they should know:

"The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges." ... It must be capable of selective fire."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

People also ask
Is an AR 15 considered an assault rifle?
The AR in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. ... AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic — a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934."

Digest that.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 2 March 2018 7:26:28 PM
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When it comes to mass killings only a true gunnie would know his weapons of choice, isn't that right Issy? Trying to bog down the argument in technical nonsense is typical of those who are happy to see a fellow gunnie rampage through a school killing innocent children, isn't that right Issy?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 3 March 2018 4:37:35 AM
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Dear Paul,

Here's more on the history of the Ar-15 and why its used
in mass shootings. It's worth a read - and quite horrific:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/ar-15-semi-automatic-history-why-used-mass-shootings-2018-2?r=US&lR=T
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 3 March 2018 9:38:01 AM
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Paul,

No one is trying to bog down the argument with technicalities; pointing out that the media wrongly label something is only attempting to get everyone talking about the same thing.

Foxy,

Even so, the AR15 is not an assault weapon, so start calling it what it is, a semi-automatic rifle.
No school shooting in the US has been done with an assault rifle.

You can both answer this:

If a school teacher and her charges were in imminent danger of being shot and it was in your power to give her a pistol, would you do so, or would you watch them die?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 3 March 2018 11:10:25 AM
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The AR-15 weapon was used by accused shooter
Nikolas Cruz at a high school in parkland, Florida.
It is a semi-automatic version
of the US military's M-16 reifle and was included in a ten
year ban signed into law by President Bill Clinton in 1994.

The law also banned the semi-automatic weapons used in other
mass shootings, including the October 1st massacre in Las
Vegas and the 2012 shooting in Newton, Connect...

Regardless of how gun-lovers try to justify the use of AR-15
style rifle - the fact controversy stems from
the widespread use of it in some of
the nation's (US) worst mass shootings.

Most rational people realise that -
if the US does not reform its gun laws, it will stay exactly
where it is. Nothing will change.

You can't keep doing what you're doing and expect different
results - that's insane.

Australia is by far a safer place today than it was before we took
action to limit the availability of guns:

http://fortune.com/2018/02/20/australia-gun-control-success/
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 3 March 2018 1:17:20 PM
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