Toni, good to see your true persona. Before you can lecture me or anyone else for that matter, show me what you've done to be taken seriously. I take it your either a wannabee or a w@nker, either way you don't obviously think things through. OK so let's begin I have designed vehicles, equipment and machinery that helped open the Northwest making it more accessible to expansion and mining startups. I have designed and built vehicles for both the domestic and mining industry. I have exported my works/cars overseas. Some examples are Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, even the Sultan of Brunei. I think you get it, I won't waste any more time on this topic. BTW Toni you are a nasty piece of work. You've got a problem, and I strongly recommend you have it seen to. Now I get it. The wogs and dago's that are known to people are on the record as working harder and more conscientiously than people like yourself. When was the last time you handled an axe to help clear trees down South so the Aussie land owner could begin farming. When was the last time you handled a shovel preparing for roads to be laid out. And all this in temperatures that you could cook eggs in. No smart arse you want to know the truth about the first wogs in Australia, just ask me not your scummy moronic mates, who were not even sperm when all this first happened. Oh and BTW I'll bet you don't even know where the term dago comes from? Well here's your lesson for today. Because the wogs could not speak English in the very early days of arrival, they were the brunt of many a joke. And that's ok, it's normal. But wogs are more intelligent than the equal number of skips, because it did not take them long to learn English. Some of the very first words they learned were simple words being used daily. Because their contract was to work from sunrise to sunset, when the sun went down, they would say 'day go boss'.

Altrav: I'll bet you don't even know where the term dago comes from?

I thought it came from Italian Pushbikes in North Queensland. They used to replace the tyres on their pushbikes with worn out sandshoes.

& Da go, wop!wop!wop! wop!

Jayb, good one. If your cracking funny that's ok, good one, but being a wog I've heard em' all before. Some aren't bad. If your trying to piss me off, you've failed. But anyway taking your question seriously, if your a mate of Toni L, and you side with him, then you're also a dick. If not and you are a lone wolf on this line, your ok, then in answer to your question about the term dago; I'm sorry Jayb, you get no points, because you must have been writing your post at the same time I was responding to Toni's. So if you want the correct answer to your question about dago's, just read my previous post responding to Toni.

Altrav: Jayb, good one. If your cracking funny that's ok, good one.

Hell mate I grew up in the Burdekin, Ayr when the big Italian influx happened in the 50's. I could hold a reasonable conversation in Italian buy the time I was 14, not perfect, but reasonable. Lost most of it now though it will come back some time whi'm least expecting it. Like when someone asks me a question & I didn't catch it, "Causa?"

All good Catholics. ;-) I learnt to play Bocce, drink a bowl of watered wine with those hard star shaped buns for lunch. Make Tomato Purea. Yes we made fun of them & they of us. That's why we all got on so well. We caught Boney Brim while the creeks flooded, ground them up & made Fish Cakes. Caught sparrows & ground them up too. Killed the pigs & made Salami & bottled the Vino. Drank Grappa. Generally had lots of fun growing up.

So there ya go mate. Not every one who says something is having a go at you personally. Struth! don't be like them feminists.

Jayb, you've left me a little choked. Your story is a wonderful and enlightening description of what it was like and you have captured it perfectly. It brought back memories I had long forgotten. Everything you said resonated well with me. Your one of the good guys. I think we did pretty well when you consider it wasn't long after the war and we understood so we could empathise with the Aussies. I remember thinking, thank God we were removed from the war early. It's generally not known that the Italian people did not want to go to war because they just didn't. The main reason was that Mussolini was an absolute moron and a bum buddy and a lap dog to pricks like Hitler and anyone who would talk to him. Anyway you've made my, and any other wogs on the forums, day. We had a lot of skippy mates and we would always take the piss, it was what we did, but it was like an act of endearment, not an act of attrition. Good for you Jayb.

Dear ALTRAV,

Oh cry me a river you snowflake. All I did was mimic how you framed your argument using sweeping generalisations and absolutes like;

“We should NEVER accept an abo calling himself or have any attachment or feeling abo, if their is any non-abo blood in their background. How arrogant are these bloody wannabees, so keen are they to gain from calling themselves abo, that they are prepared to dis-regard and malign the many other non-abo ancestors which form part of their bloodline, family tree and history.”

I thought you were just stirring the pot using the term abo so I didn't think you would mind me using wog on this occasion. How wrong I was. Well mate you really shouldn't be dishing it out if you can't take it.

You would have looked a lot better if you had copped it on the chin and returned in kind. Was it the fact that I directed it at you personally? Well let me have another crack at it, hopefully this passes muster.

These bloody wogs are all the same. My accountant says Italians always doing things with cash. They hate paying taxes to contribute to this country. Freeloaders the bloody lot of them. They have been responsible for importing huge crime families into this country and have large stakes in both drugs and prostitution. Who can forget Donald McKay a politician who got too close to exposing they and their activities so was murdered by Italins.

Now dust yourself off and hop back on the horse because there is a lt of fun to be had.