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A Referendrum to Introduce an Aboriginal Legislative Body is a Nonesense

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Hi Aidan,

" .... the Voice To Parliament is not intended to be a legislative body." No indeed, just a ginger group sitting on the side-lines, all 'voice' (with the ever-present threat to oppose some piece of legislation, thereby dooming it) and no responsibility. So perhaps your implication that the Australian electorate are all mugs may not come about.

Did ATSIC work ? No. Why was that ? Are there 'voices' current ? With five thousand Indigenous organisations; and a major consultative body with a very long name, therefore extremely important; with any Indigenous person free to call for the "Fxxking" of Australia and issuing an incitement to arson on a grand scale; with a plethora of Indigenous 'spokespeople' given free rein in the media; with Indigenous MPs in almost all parliaments, and many responsible for ministries - that's not a 'voice' ? Come off it, Aidan - any Indigenous person (and his/her dog) has a voice.

As for disruption to any parliamentary flow, imagine yet another Tasmania imposed - conveniently from the outside - on federal Parliament. Or alternative, another group of de facto cross-benchers, sniping to their hearts' content, utterly free of having to wear any consequences, always with sticks to shove up the government.

Yes, let's put all this to a popular vote, and bury it for decades, effectively forever, given that the indigenous entity seems to be unravelling as a unified political force.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 16 February 2018 9:00:32 AM
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What would a ALB do & who would comprise such a body?

In answer to the first part. Absolutely nothing, just a excitable talk fest. Much like all politicians are inclined to do.

The second part. That would be comprised of all the out of work Academic Aboriginals looking for a well paid job. After-all one has to do something with all that Socialistic crap knowledge that has been fed to them at Uni. Ay.

I could see them demanding all sorts of free goodies that they would syphoned off before it gets to the real people that require them. Eg, a new Mercedes every year because the old one run out of petrol in the bush & was left to rot. Lots more money for schemes that never eventuate & all the money just gets used up in Administration.

Yep. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 16 February 2018 9:25:20 AM
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Does anyone know what this aboriginal body would actually advocate for.? What policies it would object to?
I mean, what exactly is the objective here? Separate laws for aboriginal people? A separate state? Different welfare payments? Free housing and business grants?
I cannot see what needs to be legislated for these days. Aboriginal people have their own legal service, their own health service, a huge educational input, an aboriginal housing department, and thousands of representative organisations funded by government and totally run by aboriginal people.
Remote communities are all managed by elected councils, including the local store and any small enterprises they may have running.
All that really needs to be sorted out now is the land tenure issue. All aboriginal title land needs to be handed over to the local communities and taken out of the control of the land councils because corruption and fraud have destroyed any credibility these organisations might have once had.
After land is handed over to local councils we all get a big supply of popcorn and watch the ensuing blood bath as aboriginal families fight to the death over free land.
Posted by Big Nana, Friday, 16 February 2018 10:48:06 AM
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Big Nana: Does anyone know what this aboriginal body would actually advocate for.?

Yep, better pay & more Aboriginal staff at higher pay. Straight off the bat.

Big Nana: What policies it would object to?

Anything White.

Big Nana: I mean, what exactly is the objective here?

better pay & more Aboriginal staff at higher pay.

Big Nana: Separate laws for aboriginal people? A separate state? Different welfare payments? Free housing and business grants?

All of the above as long as Australia pays for it all. Of course if Aboriginals are given separate Laws that would open the gates for mahommedeans to have Sharia Law. Ay.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 16 February 2018 11:10:29 AM
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SteeleR, pretty much all you said was rubbish. I have never bludged off this country as much as it appears you have. I and my family, not only paid for you and your lazy lot, we actually helped build and develop this country/state for you and your lazy entitled lot. I have always had top private hospital cover, how about you? No? Medicare? AMS? I have never accepted ANY handouts like the dole and things only you and your lot know about. I don't need to go on I'm wasting my time with people like you. As for calling you abo's, you sanctimonious moron, I always abbreviate, so you calling me a wog is too late that's how Aussies talk. If YOU don't like it, too bad. Go and cry somewhere else you won't get any sympathy here. One reason wogs succeed is that we are proud people. Unlike you lot you don't give a sh!t because; I actually don't know why. You have a history and a background that goes back a long way. You did nothing by way of progress in all that time and you have the gall to criticise us for now offering you EVERYTHING. Your whole submission is moot and I am sure that the more aware readers will see through your attempt at point scoring. I am by any definition a wog, even though I was born here. When you say, 'go back to where you came from'. I AM. I don't care one way or another. Whereas it appears it bothers you. In my business life I have been described, in media articles as, 'an Australian born Italian designer'. I had nothing to do with this tag, it was all the work of the journo's. I read about it when it was printed just like everyone else. BTW I don't lay awake at night thinking about who I am. I know who I am. For starters I'm a lot more righteous person than you will ever be with your attitude and agenda. Make your own way, without hand outs. LIKE WE HAD TO.
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 16 February 2018 12:38:02 PM
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//I know who I am. For starters I'm a lot more righteous person than you will ever be//

Anybody believe that load of cobblers? Everybody knows bloody dagos are liars, crooks, bludgers and useless drunken layabouts. And this slimy greaseball wants us to believe that he's the exception to the rule? Get ya hand off it, wogboy.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 16 February 2018 1:58:50 PM
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