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Diverging Indigenous Ideologies ?

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Oops ! Fat fingers - when I wrote yesterday at 8:17:54 AM:

"Total graduate numbers have risen from barely nineteen thousand in 2015 to fifty four or more thousand now. And that rate of growth may not decline over the next generation."

I meant to type '2005' - "Total graduate numbers have risen from barely nineteen thousand in 2005 to fifty four or more thousand now. And that rate of growth may not decline over the next generation."

It seems that, as more Indigenous people graduate from university (I wish I could write so positively about TAFE), their children and relations will be more likely to go on to university over the next generation. The FIRST generation, from around 1980 to 1995, tended to be mature-aged, already with children of their own, who barely five or ten years later, also went on to university - the SECOND generation. Those students now have children approaching university age, so there is every likelihood that commencement numbers will keep rising strongly, by 8-10 % per year. That's a doubling every eight or nine years. We'll see :)

The THIRD generation of Indigenous students at university (from, say, 2010-2015) is likely to be much larger, even more urban, more likely than ever to enrol in straight, degree-level, mainstream (i.e. non-Indigenous-focussed) courses, and certainly more likely to go on to post-graduate study: those numbers have also doubled since 2006.

Indigenous people have had an urban component since the earliest days, not everybody is still living under a wurley. In fact, almost nobody is still living under a wurley. At a colony-wide school contest in 1816, organised by Governor Macquarie, the outstanding student was an Aboriginal girl, Maria Lock, who has many descendants still living in Sydney. She married a convict who was assigned to her, to work her lease of land.

Anything wrong with that, Nick ?
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 8:05:36 AM
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" constant funding for new projects which 'communities' are constantly trying to develop; pity there's not a single vegetable garden or orchard in Australia, but plenty of photo opps of such projects being initiated;

*. and of course, the big one: compensation for all of the incredibly evil and dreadful things which have been down by all Whites to all Blacks over the past 230 years.

Yeah, that should keep the 'rent' flowing. No need for education or, worse still, work."
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It's you who did the slagging and putting words in my mouth .
Do you think Indigenous people are your property?
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 9:01:20 AM
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Nick,

No, they're nobody's property. And increasing numbers will break out of any chains you might like put on them to keep them in their place, and do what they damn-well like. Increasingly, that'll be going to uni.

And yes, I'll keep slagging the welfare-for-life mobs, they bring nothing but disgrace upon the Indigenous people as a whole. Would I ever lift a finger for them ? No.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 9:05:41 AM
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So Nick, you are quite comfortable with innocent, intelligent children being condemned to live in uneducated squalor, suffering unimaginable abuse at times, just because their parents and grandparents are happy to exist as passive recipients of any money and facilities that come their way under the guise of " guilt money", gifted from people who had nothing to do with their circumstances.
These " cultural museums" are hot beds of ill health, early deaths, violence, abuse, addiction, illiteracy and total loss of hope for the future. Even the suggestion of people donating their labour for no pay in order to build structures like playgrounds for their children, on their own land, is viewed with antagonism and disdain. The concept of self help is unknown and unless the public teat is taken away, I doubt we will see any changes soon.
Posted by Big Nana, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 1:16:11 PM
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No point in me posting , you write for me . What else did I /you say?
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 4:13:05 PM
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It is good to see Aboriginal people finding their way forward to a brighter future.

Because the only way forward for black and white people in Australia, is the opportunity
to educate yourself and find a good job that pays well . That's the only way anyone can make a good life for themselves.

Ordinary white people are not handed land and money from the government they have to get educated and work to pay for everything they own from the time they leave school
to their retirement at 68years of age.

They are not privileged, they work, hard! for what they have. Something that seems to escape a lot of people around the world, who talk about white privilege, with scant regard to the fact, that white societies are hard working, achievement focused,societies.
That's why they are such successful societies. They don't sit around under a palm tree
and expect to achieve something in life. They are busy bee societies, with every bee
manning every station with the achieved education and skills required to to keep highly organised white societies running. It doesn't just happen by accident.
Its a process of education and working hard.

Aborigines are realising that handouts and welfare are a recipe for non-achievement and stagnation, which leads to excessive drinking and despair.
So good on the aboriginal people, achieving a university education. Now that is the right road to prosperity and happiness and self esteem. And it is the only way for white people to
gain these things as well. There is no easy way, unless you a born into the Rockerfella family but most are not.
Posted by CHERFUL, Saturday, 16 December 2017 10:29:58 PM
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