Thanks for that link Foxy, I clearly remember the "Reds under the bed" propaganda campaign of the 1960's.

One of the most disgusting things I personally witnessed during those times was during anti Vietnam War protests (Moratorium marches in Sydney and other cities) where the badgeless coppers (the copper always removed their badges, before making arrests, not wanting to be identified by number later) were assisted by Neo-Nazies, skin heads, to load prptesters, including young girls into paddy wagons. ALTRAV would be proud of that one, AL did you have hair in those days?

One for leoj, or whatever nick he is now using, Leo loves to hear about any largesse for politicians providing it a lefty polly not the Lovely Pauline or a Corny Banana.

The numskull NSW Minister for Transport the Liberal Andy Constance went on a taxpayer funded fact finding junket to the US to supposedly investigate public transport in America. Andy makes a whistle stop in New York, while there Andy racks up a $1600 "Limo" bill, the cost of chauffeuring the poor little sod around the place. Seems the fact finding didn't extend to actually getting on a bus or a train. Andy much preferred the comfort of the back seat of a limousine to observe New York's public transport. What a jerk! Leo put that one in the next speech you write for the Lovely Pauline.

Paul1405,

You are just sore that your 'Eastern Bloc' Greens have lost Lee Rhiannon, the head of the 'Eastern Bloc' Hydra. Also, that I forecast the end of Rhiannon. Richard Di Natale (and Bob Brown before) needed that.

It is a reasonable question to ask now that Rhiannon is finally on the skids, what is to be done about other notorious Watermelons, such as NSW's Sh**bridge, the 'schoolboy who swings from Rhiannon's skirts' and that similarly ineffective, games playing nuisance in Melbourne (another mate of yours).

As you are perfectly aware I am not a member of any political party. My main interests are in freedom of speech and accountability.

Foxy, 'ET TU'? I have no problem with your article in that link. What I read is the usual govt argie bargie of lying to the people to help them get their own agenda.

Foxy where this conversation started with Mr P1405, was that I explained that being around after the war, and the reports of the unions/warfies who were openly proud of their communist affiliation, actively engaged in stalling/stopping the supply ships leaving to re-stock our soldiers in battle overseas.

I even quoted actual accounts and references, that everyone so relies on, from actual people who suffered because of these treasonous people and their treacherous acts.

Mr P deflects and tries to draw the conversation away from my factual statements in a vane attempt to play down what I have clearly proven to be fact at the time.

I understand his position as he has admitted being, seemingly, a card carrying, labor/unionist, therefore communist backing sympathiser.

It is precisely because of his political and social beliefs, he refuses to even consider that these atrocities actually happened because it would malign his leftist beliefs and therefore render his comments as moot.

But I feel compelled to attempt to see him understand the truth.

"You are just sore that your 'Eastern Bloc' Greens have lost Lee Rhiannon, the head of the 'Eastern Bloc' Hydra"

Contraire my dear Leo I voted for the winner. Non political you say? Hummm don't know about that.

"My main interests are in freedom of speech and accountability." the word hogwash springs to mind. You spend 90% of your posts attacking Labor/Green, never a disparaging word about One Nation or Corny Banana, or is the Lovely Pauline so pure in your book that she can co no wrong. You are a Artful Dodger. Anyone who changes their nick like you have, is hiding something.

AL, all you posted as evidence was some unsubstantiated personal anecdotal stuff about some relative who you claimed nearly died because of strikes in Australia. Hardly evidence.

You also make the erroneous claim that I am a communist, not so. I am both a union member, have been for 45 years, and a fully paid up member of the Green, previously a Labor Party member. Even my detractors will admit I have never hid those facts. I am, like most Greens a progressive socialist, and indeed many in the Labor and Liberal parties are as well. The differences between the three tends to be more about emphases than direction. That is why my number two choice at election time is often the Liberal candidate. Malcolm Turnbull, Bill Shorten and Richard Di Natale's political philosophy are not all that different.

As for you, if you walk the walk, talk the talk, as you do, then you are what I describe you as, a far right ratbag! I cannot imagine any of the above three persons ever saying.

"The part I (ALTRAV) like best is you and your mates would get the living shitt kicked out of you till you matured up and showed some respect especially towards your elders."

But you said it.

A trade make of the extreme, physical violence against your opponents.

Dear Paul,

I'm glad that you read the link I cited. I found it
interesting to compare the 1950s with today's
politics. Some things apparently don't change very much
for some people. Which I guess is understandable.

As for Lee Rhiannon? I have to admit that I really am not
drawn to her very much and although I've never voted for the
Greens - from what I've read about Rhiannon - she's been a
very disruptive influence in the party. I'm sure the party
will do better without her. Mehreen Faruqi appears to be
very capable and an excellent replacement.

Dear ALTRAV,

I like to try to broaden discussions if possible by
giving more than any one perspective to any issue. I think its
good for people to do some critical thinking if they can.
And to ask questions. Of course that is not always easy
especially when dealing with highly emotional and political
issues. One's values and experiences also often come into
play. As far as unions are concerned? I know that they have
made many mistakes and are not perfect, however, they have
also achieved quite a bit for workers in this country and I
do support the right of workers to have certain
protections in their jobs and livelihoods.

It may interest you to know that I come from a very
conservative voting family. People who fled from communism
to come to Australia. People who lost not only their country,
their social status, their possessions, but their entire
families to the Soviet Regime. Anyway, I feel that there is
enough hatred in the world today we should try not to add
to it.

P1405, and you wonder why I call you names. Did you actually read my post or did you apply your union leftist reasoning, if it ain't left it ain't true.

Well, ( I will refrain from calling you names for the moment) if you had read it without bias or prejudice, you will have noted, I was quoting ACTUAL people who were there at the time.

My father-in-law was one of them. So you don't get to question me as your mates were part of this treason. Who knows you may have also been a part of it.

So man up and if you don't want to believe any of what I said, that's your choice.

But you do not get to reject what I said just because you were a part of these disgusting acts of Australian war history, by the unions and the labor party.

It goes to show the mind set of the labor party and the unions you so proudly promote. You are so blind and of course lacking in common sense and intelligence that you can't see how the unions have driven the cost of Australian goods and services up so high, our exports and therefore our jobs have suffered.

The Libs might be cheating, lying, thieves, but at least they were trying to make money and it meant work for you and your lot of selfish scum.

Now go and thank your mates for all the work that's out there. Your all good for dragging things down into your gutters. The Libs are bad but at least they try to create jobs so EVERYONE makes money.

No you and your mates came along and slowly dragged companies down to your level. Well like I said, you should be proud of what you have done in bringing this country to it's knees.