Dear Is Mise,

Whatever floats your boat old chap.

Believe what makes you happy!

Foxy,

Just shew me where the ABS said that "61.6 of the Australian population votes YES" and I'll humbly apologize and, as I said before, I'll eat my hat.

Foxy could deny it is damp while standing in a swamp in a tropical downpour and in front of sworn independent witnesses observing and swearing that fact.

Bill Shorten can do the same and while fronting a Royal Commission.

Is Mise,

Your post on Page 1 resonated with me and probably with other posters too,
"On the ABC this morn there was a discussion about how the "Gay" lobby can progress from here and change the minds of the people who voted 'No' so that there is close to 100% acceptance".

The federal parliament has passed legislation changing marriage. If that was ever an impediment it is now gone, forever. Homosexuals can get on with their lives.

If the yes camp are so chuffed about getting their SSM bill through a gutless and manipulated parliament, why do they need to change the minds of the NO voters.

As the TRUE sentiments of the people were hi-jacked there is no doubt that the NO voters will only strengthen their resolve on the matter.

Is it because the result did not in fact demonstrate the true sentiment of ALL Australians but only those who voted and those who didn't vote or abstained altogether and didn't vote so as to not show their hand.

Like Abbot and Co. you gutless bunch of garbage. I can't stand two faced pigs.

Abbot and his mates say they are NO voters and then when it counts they cut and run.

These gutless pricks don't deserve the title of Ministers of the Crown.

They are more like minstrels of the clown.

"why do they need to change the minds of the NO voters." No we don't, you keep your bigoted attitude, take it to the grave with you if you like.

"As the TRUE sentiments of the people were hi-jacked" wrong again, those who cast a vote were under no allusions as to what they were voting for. There was no pressure to vote yes or no, or even to vote at all.

The rest is a bitter diatribe against Abbott and co, who abstained from voting.
BTW you are wrong again Abbott is not a Minister of the Crown, he is simply a Member of Parliament.

I think this topic has run it's course. I've already moved on to other topics. Catch you all on the next one. Bye and Merry Xmas.
Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 25 December 2017 2:30:18 AM

A man of his word, still here whingeing I see.

Now we can add, and a Happy New Year!

I am happy to be a called a bigot by my opponents because what I uphold is the biologically sexual reality, I an happy to be called a homophobe because that is a left derogatory term for one they oppose. They are trying to use shame to change my reality, shame is the only tool they have to close debate, freedom of ideas and combat my reality. It is the same tactic that Muslims use to close debate on their religion, i.e. an Islamophobia. It is supposed to create shame and peer pressure to submit.