I love getting tail-gated by a 4WD: as an old person, I immediately start to slow down, say to 40 km in a 60 km zone, and weave a bit from one lane slightly to another so that they can't roar past. Drives them crazy. Yuck yuck.

And why do they seem to drive with their lights on high-beam ? Is that just their usual arrogance, or a design defect ? Like their 'kiss-my-arse' rear body work ?

I agree with Foxy, that they should be banned from urban areas - and, if possible, have to pay an extra 10 % Annoyance Tax to subsidise 3rd Party Insurance etc. costs for older drivers.

Joe

What a waste of time this was! Everybody had a whinge about something they can do nothing about,and people will continue to buy and drive 4WDs for ever in a day. Pathetic.

Why do some people want to put small inconspicuous 4x4s off the road?

What have Subaru and Mazda, et al done to deserve this dislike?

Op2,

Do you also drive so close to the vehicle in front that you cannot see its mirrors?

There are a lot of vehicles on the road that are heavier, higher, wider and longer than most 4x4s are the all in the bad books as well?

Hey! Let's start a movement to ban Rolls Royces, the latest is a bit big but not as big as some of the earlier ones (and still on our roads).
"The Phantom (2018) is the first Rolls-Royce to be built on a new all-aluminium platform, dubbed the Architecture of Luxury, that will underpin all future models. Lurking under the bonnet is a twin-turbocharged 6.75-litre V12 that will generate 420kW and a staggering 900Nm - enough shove to propel the 2.6-tonne Phantom to 100km/h in an astonishing 5.3 seconds."

https://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/rolls-royce-phantom-revealed-64799.html?eid=cpc:nnn-15omn0938-optim-nnn:google_adwords-bau_paid_search_campaign-dom-textad-nnn-drive-nnn&campaign_code=15caf041&promote_channel=sem&utm_source=google_adwords&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=bau2015&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqb6EiICw1wIVkwsrCh0o2QsrEAAYASAAEgJnmPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

and there's a link that soes with the size!!

Why do you post then ttbn.... If we all took your simplistic defeatest attitude we wouldn't debate anything and society would just be what the wealthy wanted.

Look up "people power" ttbn and stop sulking ... so you lose most discussions you enter - that is only you have nothing to offer except - "nothing will change"

People power has actually pressured Governments to stop wars...

You must be a gleaming little ray of sunshine in real life..

You made a fool of yourself on another thread and now you are doing the same here... You are looking like a total waste of space.

It's time to "Ban the Bullbar" Unless a person can prove they need it for extensive country travel.

I asked people on here, with 4x4 who have bull bars, if they had ever hit a bull or a kangaroo and no-one replied... I wonder why?

If we can't get bull bars banned, and they are in fact "just in case accessories" or ""worse a fashion statement... then I think we should demand every 4x4 has a canoe on board "just in case" they get caught in water. You could paint the canoe pretty colours for the fashion conscious... lmao

Apparently many of the bull bars on current vehicles are actually illegal. I wonder if that is being policed...

An illegal bull bar should mean and instant unroadworthy be put on the vehicle.

Furthermore people selling illegal bull bars that are not approved should face severe penalties to "kerb the practice."

Get it Ï used "kerb the practice" instead of "curb the practice" if it was policed properly many 4x4 would be sitting beside the kerb for some time...lol

Op2,

What do you have against the safer 4x4s, I've driven the selective Subaru, the earlier model that a flick of the wrist allowed 4x4 selection and it was a revelation.

The new Mazda 4x4s are one of the safest small cars on the road; what do you have against them, apart from their drivetrain?

I've never hit a 'roo whilst driving a vehicle with a bull bar, but that's mainly good luck, in that one of the pea-brained macropods didn't choose to rush in front of me from cover.
However, I have hit one in a Toyota Corolla, smashed head and parking lights, a 'roo seen the next day, near the spot, with a large patch of gravel rash.
The Statesman sustained over $3,000 worth of damage from brainless 'roos;
I'd stopped to get a sweet from the glove box and was doing 40 kph when a big 'roo jumped straight in front of me, I hit the brake but collided with him, result was a broken right-hand front headlight, front body panel, distorted hood and a big dent in the rh front guard where his head whipped around.
He took off at speed apparently little the worse for the meeting!

Twenty kms further on a small'roo shot out of nowhere and bashed into the left rear guard, the guard being held in place by two spring clips (allows faster assembly) it came off, hit the road and twisted the plastic "bumper bar".
I always carry a long length of rope so was able to tie the guard up by winding the rear windows down a bit and passing the rope through the car.

The Statesman is a tinny car with great mechanicals, except the earlier models that have no adjustment for aligning the rear wheels.

"Hey! Let's start a movement to ban Rolls Royces"
No they ban themselves from car-parks being 5.8m long ( the 1956 Bentley I drove) to Subaru 4.8m long. The extra length is the aircraft fuselage out front, terrorist weapons.