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Should 4 wheel drive owners have to have an extra specialised test before driving one?

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Not that it is relevant to this tragic event, but a Kluger is NOT a 'four wheel drive'. And journalists should eschew the use of negative stereotypes to sensationalise. This was a dreadful accident attributable to human error. It should remind us all to be more mindful and in the present when operating a vehicle.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:00:07 AM
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Foxy,

Are you deliberately way off beam or is it something else?

"They are designed for rural areas and should be banned in cities"
What about all the small all wheel drive cars?

"Would we accept military vehicles driving on
our streets?"
Yes, we would and do, military vehicles are driven on the public roads every day.

"I'm not sure of the history of these vehicles but I recall
that they were initially designed as military vehicles and later
for use by farmers. I believe the originators were "range-rovers"
in the UK."
They were designed for farmers and were called 'Land Rovers' they were later used by the UK military and others,
Predating the LandRovers were the US 'Jeeps'
of WWII but four-wheel drive vehicles have been around since the very early days of the self-propelled vehicle.

From Wikipedia,
"In 1893, before the establishment of a modern automotive industry in Britain, English engineer Bramah Joseph Diplock patented a four-wheel-drive system for a steam-powered traction engine,[13] including four-wheel steering and three differentials, which was subsequently built. The development also incorporated Bramah's Pedrail wheel system in what was one of the first four-wheel-drive automobiles to display an intentional ability to travel on challenging road surfaces".

Get over it, all you anti 4x4s, next you'll be wanting to ban big trucks because they are wide, high and have big non-crumple front ends and those terrifying bumper bars!!
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:18:29 AM
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Jealous Foxy would ban the new Subaru XV, in fact all Subarus and many other cars on the road.

Greens would have everyone living in caves and forget the wheel, because those imported animals would have to go as well.

The real issue here is the shameful ambulance-chasing and worse, while the shock of loss is so raw.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:03:04 AM
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There are accidents where the wrong pedal is pushed when trying to stop. A Toyota landcruiser has 200 kW , 650 Nm power. A Camry has 133kW, 235 Nm. Oh what a feeling with twice the wall-smashing status .

"The pickup in question is named Jack , all-wheel drive based on a Mack Granite model and is powered by a 13-liter Mack MP8 engine providing 596 kW and 3835 Nm ".
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:30:38 AM
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Some "human error", leoj. How could anyone fit to drive be capable of that carnage?
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:53:51 AM
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I see that instead of a discussion some are again
stooping to personal attacks - "jealous foxy"
indeed. Of what exactly should I be jealous?
I am chauffeured everywhere in a Holden Statesman.
I can no longer drive (because of injuries
sustained earlier as a result of a fall). But when
I did drive I found that as OP2 pointed out - I
could not see (or be seen) behind these monstrosities
on the road.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 12:21:30 PM
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