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SSM and Bad Reporting

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Reporting on the ABC's Q&A can be as bad as the program itself. Megan Palin, in today's Courier Mail, touts SSM activist Magda Szubanski as “weighing in” in response to a NO campaigner with “a seemingly limitless supply of well-researched statistics”. No 'research' was required for Ms. Szubanski's utterances, and the ONLY statistic was wrong.

Ms. Szubanski's “supply” included: different rules for gay and and straight marriages is akin to a gay AFL player not being awarded a Brownlow Medal, but a civil acknowledgement; refuted that SSM would alter society's view on men and women; admitted that gay people were “ a really small percentage of the population” - she claimed 10% - her only 'statistic' but a wrong one. The 10% is the acknowledged number for the people claiming to be homosexual who are actually homosexual. The figures she should have used is below 3% for the genuine homosexuals.

Ms. Szubanski went on to whinge about wanting the “same rights and protections”; “oppressions” homosexuals have been through, and “murders”.

The most absurd question Ms. Szubanski asked was, how Sri Lankans would feel if they were told they could not marry!

Ms. Szubanski is a biggish name, and is respected by some people; but if she is a flag bearer for SSM, the YES crowd have no arguments. Only the usual retreat by the majority of Australians will secure SSM – otherwise they would not have a leg to stand on.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 12:08:27 PM
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Ms. Szubanski was given more butt in time and propaganda space by the abc and yet proved totally out of her depth with false facts and half truths. I suspect her applause came from the dumbed down getup clowns who would not have any idea about decency.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 5:14:43 PM
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I know what you mean, ttbn.

<<Ms. Szubanski went on to whinge about wanting the “same rights and protections”; “oppressions” homosexuals have been through, and “murders”.>>

I can’t stand when people talk about oppression and murder as if they were something to “whinge” about. Pfft! Grow a spine!

<<The most absurd question Ms. Szubanski asked was, how Sri Lankans would feel if they were told they could not marry!>>

How is that absurd? Both sexuality and race are something people are born with an cannot change. Her analogy was sound.

<<… if she is a flag bearer for SSM, the YES crowd have no arguments.>>

Whether the 'Yes' crowd have an argument has nothing to do with whether she is flag-bearer for them. Especially since I don't think they have a say in who is a flag-bearer for them.

The 'Yes' crowd already have an argument, anyway: equality. It’s the ‘No’ crowd who don’t have an argument. That's why they have to divert to Safe Schools and gender identity.
Posted by AJ Philips, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 6:01:04 PM
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While we are talking about bad reporting, have to add www.news.com.au for there biased reporting of the show.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/magda-szubanski-nails-samesex-marriage-debate-in-a-nutshell/news-story/be1af32d9e7963f8bae0f9cf7e36d88c

Quote "MAGDA Szubanski has nailed the same-sex marriage debate"

Quote "Ms Szubanksi hit back with a seemingly limitless supply of well-researched statistics and arguments."

She talked rubbish and the audience must have been following a big applause sign.

I can see it now once SSM is legalized all the gay bashing's,the discrimination, the murders will stop and finally Sri Lankans will be allowed to marry, she must have researched they were all gay
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 6:19:15 PM
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I watched the same-sex marriage debate on "Q&A"
on Monday evening, 23rd October 2017. It certainly
was an interesting program and a wide variety of
views were presented. I thought the panellists argued
their points of view rather well and it was great to
see the civility between them. For me personally it
made quite a few things much clearer. Especially Father
Frank Brennan who explained the difference between
the Sacrament of Marriage and the Law in regard to
Civil Marriages. We need programs such as these so
that important issues can be discussed and different
points of view presented. Here's a link describing that
evening's program:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-24/szubanski-challenges-archbishop-in-q&a-same-sex-marriage-episode/9077620
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 9:17:13 AM
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"The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They become to be accepted by degrees, by dint of constant pressure on the one side and constant retreat on the other – until one day they are suddenly declared to be the country's official ideology”. (Ayn Rand, novelist and philosopher, 1905-1982).

Exactly! Rand was a woman well ahead of her time, and she got it right, as is now being shown.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 9:49:45 AM
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