There's a good data base on guns at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation

It shows that the only country in the world with a total ban on private gun possession with no loopholes is North Korea, but Rocket Man has even more serious weapons.

Most of the other loopholes are provisions that the applicant knows how to use a gun (duh! It doesn't take Einstein)and that the applicant isn't a known criminal or lunatic. Even Japan has a loophole though a very restrictive one (it sure needs to be restrictive noting the number of Japs who went ape with guns in 1942).

Data that I couldn't turn up, but which would be most instructive, would be correlations between size and number of loopholes and number of gun homicides. The widest loophole of all is of course the USA with the constitution that the slave owners and Injun hunters wrote and which leads to 30 thousand gun homicides a year.

We do, in Australia, need for our protection at least to put the gun freaks last on the ballot papers, especially Leyonhjelm, PHON and those who openly proclaim themselves to be shooters' parties.

Julian,

If all of your research is as accurate as "....and which leads to 30 thousand gun homicides a year."
Then it's time that you gave up or sought some advice.

Gun homicides average around 11,000 per anum, the following is typical:

"In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens),[2][3] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens).[4] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[4] Of the 2,596,993 total deaths in the US in 2013, 1.3% were related to firearms.[1][6]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States#Homicides

The gunnie is referring to MURDERS. Homi- = person, -cide = killing. Yanks kill themselves and one another with guns. More than 30 thousand of them every year. This is a direct result of the slave owners' and Injun-hunters' constitution -- the gun nirvana to which the deadly enemies of the lives of Australians aspire for Australia.

ALARM BELLS ARE RING IN NEW SOUTH WALES! A possible Nevada exists!

There are 850,000 registered guns in NSW. Shocking as that number is, it only reveals part of the disaster waiting to happen. David Shoebridge through freedom of information has found there are a number of potential Stephen Paddock's right here in NSW. David has found there are people in the state holding arsenals of around 300 guns each, with about 50 people having a personal cache of 100 or more weapons at their disposal. For what purpose these people hold so many guns we do not know. As far as we know none have ever been subjected to a exhaustive psychiatric assessment, which should be mandatory for all those seeking a gun licence, and repeated annually, just in case, there has been a change in their perilous mental state.

Leoj, what is the situation with the 'citizens militia' in Queensland? Are you able to reveal any details, or is it a complete secret?

Issy, since Las Vegas has anyone from the North America command passed on words of encouragement to the local chapter of the NRA? Or is that also a complete secret.

Issy with his BS baffles brains! The old unrelated minimalist argument by associating something, in this case gun deaths, with something that appears to be related but is not, other causes of death, they are not interrelated at all. In that way you produce a very low figure like 1.3%. That makes it appear guns are somewhat safe and therefore not a problem.

My statistic; In 2013 there were 33,636 Americans killed by guns, but none by land mines. The inference, and the conclusion I want you to draw, is land mines must be very safe, because they don't kill people. Due to their extremely safe nature people should be free to place land mines in their front yards and on the nature strip. Agree Issy. It is the same argument you are using.

Julian,

You were wrong, simply admit it.

Paul,

I deal in facts not fictions.
Did you ask Shoebridge why he voted against strengthening the gun laws?