Well EMPEROR JULIAN...Indeed we're all so lucky to have someone as knowledgeable you, with your experience with F/A's to redirect our attention back to that of Guns! What precisely is a 'Captive Bolt Pistol' if I may enquire. To over simplify F/A's is indeed a somewhat perilous folly?You own definition of a F/A, it must possess a capacity to kill another with a projectile, at a distance of at least three feet? Well I suppose it works? An interesting take that's for sure.

The Australian chapter of the Yank NRA asks: "just who do you imagine you are to be telling other people what they can and cannot do for their recreation"

Answer: One of the 24 million whose lives are threatened by the gun anarchy that prevailed until Howard acted to reduce the gun freaks' power to kill.

How many of the rest of us 24 million would like private gun possession abolished altogether? Only a referendum would tell. Bring it on, with full disclosure of how many gun deaths are caused in America and Australia by licensed as well as illegal guns.

Not surprising that any threat to put an end to gun anarchy has the gun freak and Yank NRA tool leoj frothing at the keyboard about a "totalitarian" called Soros.

I've looked Soros up at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Views_on_antisemitism_and_Israel and he seems nof a bad sort of a bloke, hardly a "totalitarian" as the gun freak suggests though I wouldn't agree with his support for the EU

Captive bolt pistols are stun guns used to knock out cattle prior to slaughter. Penetrating captive bolt pistols kill them. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_bolt_pistol

Thank you EMPEROR JULIAN, that's precisely what I eluded to in my previous post. And you're of course quite right, when you claim the number of illegal F/A's that have, and still are, falling into the hands of criminals. And whether under this or any other Australian Government, that situation will remain the same? There are always some issues, within either State of Federal Government's where our politicians are overcome with this mysterious malady known as political paralysis? Right or wrong, that's how things stand with F/A's, in Oz at this time.

As I said above, any and all problems to do with F/A's are essentially the fault of politicians, nobody else. Therefore EJ, it's not much point having a go at legitimate shooters, because of the aberrant behaviour of a mere few. The sort of events we saw occurring at Las Vegas and/or Sandy Hook, would unlikely, ever happen here today. Essentially since the initiatives taken, post Port Arthur, with tougher licensing legislation and the re-classification of many categories weapons.

EmperorJulian,

That was disingenuous of you. o sung wu was rightly questioning your definition here, first sentence,
EmperorJulian, Saturday, 21 October 2017 12:02:28 PM

o sung wu, Is Mise too, are right to be concerned that there is a very broad range of tools that could and likely have been used to murder. Or are you going to quibble over the method of projection?

As for Soros, why should Australians accept his Open Society Foundation's interference in our domestic politics and economy as you might do? That foundation is under the directions of his central management fund. So sly. How obvious too that behind the blind of supporting leftist distractions and activism, good old George Soros is actually about avoiding and trashing the target country's scrutiny and transparency laws and of course the regulations affecting foreign investment and control.

It is a constant fight for Australian regulators to keep up with foreign billionaires with highly complex structures, who pull political strings and control apparently independent bodies with grants.