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Dismantling Democracy

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nnn,
You gotta follow the money; who funded Hitler?
That would be German - Jewish banker Max Warburg, brother of Paul Warburg who was one of the original founders of the US Federal Reserve, if my memory's correct.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 6:49:02 PM
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hmmmmm..
"Paul Warburg was a planner for the U.S. Federal Reserve System which is a collection of private banks, and attended as the American representative, at the Treaty of Versailles conference, where his brother Max was on the German side of the bargaining table.

Beginning in 1933, Max Warburg served on the board of the Nazi Reichsbank, reporting directly to Hjalmar Schacht, before emigrating in 1938.

Before World War II, Max Warburg served on the board of directors of Interessen Gemeinschaft Farben or I.G. Farben, the giant German chemical firm that produced Zyklon B gas used in Nazi internment camps. His brother Paul Warburg served on the board of directors of I.G. Farben's wholly owned American subsidiary, which was also associated with Standard Oil (however, Paul Warburg died in January 1932, before Hitler was elected Chancellor). I.G. Farben Auschwitz, founded in Katowice (33 km northwest of Auschwitz town) had its own corporate slave camp called Buna/Monowitz, where prisoners from Auschwitz were put to work. The Kilgore Committee Report of 1942 claimed that all I.G. Farben board members had precise and prior knowledge that Zyklon B (an insecticide) was being used to murder civilians in concentration camps, with no attempt made to halt production of the insecticide after such murders were understood. I.G. Farben, financed through Wall Street, was instrumental in channeling funds for the rise to power of the Nazi Party (as was Prescott Bush). It was claimed I. G. Farben also built up the industrial and war-making capabilities of Germany once the Nazis were in power while simultaneously attempting to restrict industrial production materials to countries marked for invasion by Nazi Germany, all of this to such a degree that all German board members other than Max Warburg were charged after World War II as war criminals. The I.G. Farben factories were carefully avoided by Allied bombers indicating they were protected, as was Max Warburg."
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So Hitler denounced Jewish bankers and used them for funding. One day we'll find Hitler was a secret priest who heard confessions from Stalin and wore a burka in the bunker for Bar-Mitzvah.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 8:14:41 PM
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Hi Shadow,

What the world does not remember today is that as far as the West was concerned there were two Hitlers. the pre 1939 Hitler, and the post 39 Hitler. The dramatic events of WWII have pushed the pre 39 Hitler into the background. Fascism was both admired and supported in western democracies during the 1930's, the Menzies position was not uncommon. Today it is interesting that no photographs of Menzies 1938 official visit to Nazi Germany survive, nor do any official reports or communications from Menzies as to his observations.

You say; "the photo makes a strong point whether people want to hear it or not." What is that strong point? Other than historical significance, the position of the Arab leadership at that time is well documented, and not in dispute. The photo has no more relevancy to today's political climate than my account of pre-war Menzies and today's Liberal Party. The purpose is to use history to associate today's Muslims with Fascism. Although some Muslims are clearly extremists, and worthy of being in that league, it is grossly unfair to place all Muslims and their religion in that position.

Turnbull has rightly pointed out that general attacks on all Muslims is counter productive in our fight against extreme terrorism. Moderate Muslims are our best ally in that fight, they suffer even more than we do at the hands of extremists.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 5:52:48 AM
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"That had indeed been the policy of the German government at least until 1938. Hitler’s reply to Al-Husseini on November 28, however, confirmed that this policy was already a thing of the past before that meeting. A great deal of evidence indicates that the decision to murder all the Jews of Europe had been taken sometime during the prior six months. The implementation of the policy, indeed, had begun immediately after the invasion of the USSR on June 22,."

"Menzies’ letter to his sister Belle was dated August 6, 1938.
Menzies wrote home. “Nevertheless, it must be said that this modern abandonment by the Germans of individual liberty and of the easy and pleasant things of life has something rather magnificent about it.

“The Germans may be pulling down the churches, but they have erected the State, with Hitler as its head, into a sort of religion which produces spiritual exaltation that one cannot but admire…”
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Bob was then in the United Australia Party , for a fascist one nation genocidal holy master of Muslims race . Menzies and Curtin both refused Semitic refugee immigration.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 8:20:15 AM
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nnn.
I think you could look at it both ways.
Not just that Hitler used Jewish funding, but also that Jews funded Hitler...
What Paul says is true, many leaders expressed respect and admiration before the war, possibly because of how well he had rebuilt the german economy.
What is interesting is that Jews went to war against Hilter on March 24, 1933. 'Jews of the World Unite. Boycott German Goods'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 8:56:18 AM
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Paul1405, "Fascism was both admired and supported in western democracies during the 1930's"

Rather it is the authoritarianism of the perceived 'strong leader' that is admired by some. Same as now, now difference. I would argue that more women support a 'strong leader' because they place more value on predictability and defence of what they have now.

Some here will not like this, but Gillian Triggs exemplifies the authoritarian personality.

Of course this can now degenerate into cat-calling from both sides, losing the real point - that freedom of speech is the only real bulwark against authoritarians and totalitarianism and the truly dangerous are those who would limit it for all sorts of 'good' reasons.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 9:07:08 AM
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