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Dismantling Democracy

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Dear Josephus,

He wasn't just warning about Islam was he now.

This was the kind of inflamatory rubbish CTFM was sanctioned for;

"There are many things in the Qur'an are not completely clear, not very clear, so then you read Hadith, you read the explanation. OK, so when people read that, study that for six years, they become true Muslim and we call them terrorists. But actually they are true Muslims because they read the Qur'an they understood it and know they're practising it"

So basically those who study a part of their faith for 6 years automatically become terrorists?

Why on earth isn't teaching that kind of crap deemed hateful?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 21 August 2017 5:43:43 PM
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"Germans quite understandably have a low tolerance for this type of propaganda."
what a fascinating sentence . Hatred must be smashed?
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 21 August 2017 6:25:22 PM
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Foxy - Quote "And yet we have the same people screaming against
independent news sources such as" "and the ABC - especially
programs like Q&A and 4 Corners."

I hope you don't rely on them for independent analyses of anything they are so biased and corrupt (got $100 millions plus from Gillard for what? not reporting things)

Yes ABC has some truthful programs but overall most are just biased beyond belief, and they do not ask the hard questions when they have the opportunity.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 21 August 2017 10:50:38 PM
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Thanks Steele for setting the record straight on Michael Sturzenberge. Any student of history would know there was an established relationship between Hitlers Nazi Germany and the Arabs of North Africa and the Middle East between 1933 and 1945. A case of my enemies enemy is my friend.
If we are going to be critical of Hitler supporters, those of the pre WWII vintage, many leading western conservative figures were also, if not disciples of Hitlers National Socialism, certainly admirers of it. They included our very own Robert Menzies, founder of the Liberal Party. As Attorney General Menzies visited Nazi Germany in 1938, returning with complementary reports. Histories revisionists, and Menzies himself, painted a different picture post WWII.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 6:34:22 AM
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Paul,

Don't confuse Mensies' admiration for the massive economic turnaround that had occurred in Germany with sympathy for Nazi policies, or compare this with the Imams of Trans Jordan discussing the ways to kill Jews with Hitler.

Irrespective of Michael Sturzenberge's past, the 6-month jail sentence was for posting a completely authentic photo on his Facebook page. Even the pernicious 18c would not apply. While Germany is sensitive to its past, the photo makes a strong point whether people want to hear it or not.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 4:11:56 PM
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Here's a TIME report by a US Navy historian about Arab : Jewish homeland wars. The Arab view of genocide is ambiguous.
Hitler and the Grand Mufti: What They Really Said in 1941 | Time.com
time.com/4084301/hitler-grand-mufi-1941/
Oct 22, 2015 - Adolf Hitler talking to Grand Mufti Haj Amin el Husseini

The photo of their noses is intriguing : did Hitler have part-Semitic genes? Did Jews start both the Soviet revolution and Hitlerism? Was WWII a Jewish civil war? Did Germany ban that 2015 TIME magazine?
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 5:47:43 PM
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