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Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 11:46:20 AM
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Knows squat about social psychology is that what you are saying?
BTW, no-one is casting aspersions on 'veracity', that is you. However, do you call a plumber for your electrical? Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 11:55:44 AM
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Dear SteeleRedux,
Thank You for the link from Brookings. I am familiar with their work and their reputation - having worked at the Reference Department of the University Library, at the University of Southern California for many years. The Brookings Institution is a nonprofit organisation engaged in nonpartisan study of economic, governmental, and international issues and the social sciences. Its purpose is to contribute to the understanding of important problems in public policy. It was founded in 1927 and its headquarters are in Washington, D.C. It is interesting indeed that White Evangelicals have changed their opinions regarding morality and ethics. I imagine that this change would not have occurred under Bill Clinton or Hillary. They would be considered too "Progressive." And Bill Clinton I'm sure would have been condemned for his"scandalous" behaviour by them. However let us not forget that those who voted for Donald Trump live predominantly in the Mid-West - are White Evangelicals - and simply look upon Trump as the man who's going to "Make America Great Again." They want to bring back the so called "glory" days of old. They're therefore willing to forgive Trump everything. Until of course he stops delivering on what he's promised them. Then it will become interesting to see just how things will change. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 11:59:47 AM
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Armchair Critic,
Our posts crossed. As you would appreciate, my post above was directed at SteelRedux. Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:02:06 PM
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of course personal morals or lack of define public performance and policy.Look at some of the deviants who designed ' safe' schools. In Canada one is in prison for child abuse.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:02:42 PM
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Dear Foxy,
Yes it is interesting. I find it fascinating especially having Christian fundamentalist in-laws some of whom while being ardent Trumps supporters obviously do not live in mid-west USA. So at least in an Australian context I am placing his support in the anti-Muslim court although I suspect this holds to a large degree in the US as well. I recently challenged two of those in-laws on what Trump had done to improve things in the US managing to counter each one with facts until we got to the Muslim issue. His attempt to ban Muslims from certain countries was enthusiastically touted. Then one raised an point I had never heard before, that Trump had stopped Muslim prayer times in the White House which had brought proceedings to a halt 5 times a day amongst other similar transgressions. They were all bunkum of course. http://www.snopes.com/trump-cancels-obamas-muslim-ritual/ Any open reader of the Old Testament is usually struck by how flawed the biblical characters are. There is probably a case to be made by them that Trump is also a vehicle for God's work although evangelists are normally most insistent that biblical figures like Abraham are extremely pious and God fearing. Unfortunately it just seems on a very base level this is a case of modifying your ethics to embrace a man who you deem to be an enemy of your enemy. Hardly a 'Christian' stance. I would love further elaboration from runner but I don't think we are going to get it. Pity. Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:46:04 PM
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Look up 'The Push to Persia', these are the people advocating for wars for Israel and American exceptionalism and even advocate a false flag terrorist attack on US shores blamed on Iran as a pretext to start war.
I'll tell you why this article is total garbage.
Point 1. It assumes that evangelicals believe that the Christopher Steel (PP) dosier / Russian narrative is true, which it is not.
Why dont you get your facts straight and look up Fusion GPS?
Do you not think evangelicals havent looked into it and doubt the story?
Point 2. Evangelicals know that Trump, like them is not perfect and they see him as a far better candidate and doing things more in their interests than Hillary Clinton or Democrats.
Supporting Trump over Clinton does not in any way challenge their religious views.
Finally you want a real story?
This is a story so big it's not just a real story but THE story.
It involves Clintons, the DNC and their IT professionals the Awan Brothers, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.
It's not easy to introduce you to this story because it's like 100 stories or individual investigations all connected and all into one.
The following article does not do it justice just how big this story is.
http://www.trunews.com/article/could-the-awan-schultz-scandal-bring-down-the-democratic-party
You can find out more here:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/25/wasserman-shultzs-it-aide-arrested-trying-to-flee-the-country/
And also on the Youtube Channels 'George Webb' and 'Crowdsource the Truth' and on their website
http://truthleaks.org
Trump Fights Back.
http://www.trunews.com/article/house-asks-for-special-investigator-for-clinton-comey-lynch
The last thing I want to say is that 90% of the news you guys read is propaganda, based on narrative and conjecture to sell less informed individuals a ratings-based story.
Too often commenters quote people, organisations and NGO's they know little about.