Foxy,

Most countries will not consider a renunciation of a citizenship (or without the person going into their embassy/consulate with the correct identification and doing it there in person. What you do in the Aus citizenship ceremony is not recognized.

Paul,

Abetz no, Rhiannon certainly.

Dear Shadow Minister,

That's the entire point.

It isn't recognised - yet.

Hopefully things will be made simpler in the future
if there's enough public interest and pressure.
But it is a big if.

Foxy,

There is another issue. What about the 99.99% of people that neither want nor need to revoke their other citizenships? What about the $200m needed for a referendum that probably won't pass?

All this for 2 idiots?

Dear Shadow Minister,

You right we do need to consider quite a few
issues in our discussion.

As -
One journalist pointed out that if we are talking
about changes to Article s44(i) of the Constitution
the key is to aim for striking the right balance
between maximising participation by Australian
citizens while also safe-guarding the national interest.

Dear Leoj,

«Pleased that you agree that Ludlam and Waters should be required to recompense the Taxpayer for losses they are responsible for.»

The taxpayer has lost nothing because had those two not been elected, there would have been some other two clowns in their place, receiving that same money.

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Dear SM,

«All this for 2 idiots?»

Why, those 2 idiots are already out, so it's not going to help them anyway.

Rather, it is for the ordinary voters, allowing us to be represented by who we choose, rather than by who we choose out of a given government-approved list (as in Hong-Kong and Iran).

«The requirement to give up dual citizenship is a tiny sacrifice»

Not if it prevents you from visiting your family in your old country. Once renouncing a citizenship, obtaining an entry visa there might no longer be easy or even possible.

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Dear Foxy,

I like much of what you write here, but sadly you still speak of this abstract "national interest", as if it was more important than the interests and wishes of those people who actually live here and are adversely affected by the tyranny of the regime. Why demand loyalty to a body from one who represents those people who never agreed in the first place to be subjected to that body and are attempting to salvage their freedom by overthrowing it?

Dear Yuyutsu,

I was not at all suggesting that the abstract 'national
interest' was more important than the interests and
wishes of the nation's people. That would certainly go
against the 'national interests' of this country.
And we have the means to vote out those in power who
shape the various policies regarding our international
engagement, diplomacy development, humanitarian aid,
trade, peace and security, that we feel are not to our
best advantage.

Therefore I'm sure that you will agree that the 'national
interest' is a product of the political, social, and
cultural meaning we give it. In other word the 'national
interest' is decided by the community whose interest it is.

I trust this clarifies things.