Did they ask how many people want the Greens 'Showboats' back? Poll Queensland and see how many want to save Larissa Waters.

However those media/news driven polls are a complete waste of time. For many reasons, not the leat being that people are caught on the foot and have not had the provision/s explained to them.

However if you want to support a real poll and run by the Electoral Office, what about this one from the same site? Some pages of supportive posts if you please,

"Senior Liberal Peter Dutton has pushed the case for a postal plebiscite on the issue of same sex marriage, saying he would like it resolved in this term of parliament.

He says a postal plebiscite would require no legislation but would deliver the same policy intent as a proper plebiscite, which has been blocked by the Senate.

'I think that is a much a cleaner process than people running off to support private member's motions or a Labor stunt within the House of Representatives,' Mr Dutton told Sky News on Sunday."

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/07/23/dutton-wants-postal-plebiscite-on-marriage.html

Leoj, has spent the past week salivating on the forum over a misdemeanour committed by a couple of Greens. Nothing to get ones knickers in a knot about, unless of course you are the all seeing, all knowing, fly on the wall, Green hating leoj that is. He claims the left of politics is preoccupied with gay marriage, something he oft quotes from a new political love, the big loser himself, the befuddled and muddled Mark Latham. Unfortunately leoj occupies 99% of his forum time boring the pants off so many with his incessant anti Green diatribes.

The voters of Australia are far more concerned about the bread and butter issues that directly affect them, than some perceived transgression of an anachronistic section of the Australian Constitution. What leoj should be screaming about is the poor state of governance being enacted in Canberra by that pair of misfits Turnbull and Abbott. While this pair of nincompoops exchange blows, Australia goes straight down the gurgler!

The sooner an election is called the better! Agree Leo?

Dear Foxy,

I would have done away with the whole of Article s44, not just s44(i).

Implicit in s44 is the idea as if being elected to parliament is a privilege of the appointed: well it isn't - it's a privilege of the voters who appoint their representative. S44 limits this voters' privilege, thus is wrong.

Yes, if I were to immigrate today, I would not have been able to pass the Australian citizenship criteria because it would require me to compromise my conscience, I suspect that the same could also be said of many Australian-born people. Yet at the time I only had to give my allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen, Her heirs and successors, which was so much easier. Indeed, I have since accepted Her in my heart as my Queen.

«He states that unless we have a consensus of support about how we will form our legislatures and an agreement to abide by its laws, none of us will be able to enjoy our rights and liberties without being threatened by others.»

These are Peter Costello's views, but it is short sighted:

"Unless" implies no other way.

While the rule of law is one method, it is unwholesome and fear-based. There are better ways to maximise our ability to enjoy our rights and liberties without being threatened by others. No solution is perfect, but note that the enforcement of laws, itself defeats the above purpose as it limits our ability to enjoy our liberties without being threatened by others (i.e. police/courts/jails/etc.). Better, more creative and less violent, solutions do exist.

In any case, how can you generate a consensus using oaths made under duress? but migrants aside - Australian-born people were never given the option to confirm or decline the above agreement, meaning that no consensus exists.

«the national interest itself should be decided...»

Again, since there's no such thing as nation, there cannot be such thing as "national interest". Whatever people may decide, that is logically impossible, so better concentrate on how we can all live together in peace without the imposition of a "nation".

The Queensland of Old?

http://newmatilda.com/2017/06/04/larissa-waters-asked-one-question-too-many-about-labors-new-mega-casino/

Foxy,

That is, "By Larissa Waters". Froth from 'The Bubble'?

Paul1405,

The Greens are random and that is putting it mildly,
"Calling Spaceship Democrats II, come in please?"..
..."Whoops, you are breaking up Spaceship Democrats II and er, it isn't just your radio".

While your NSW 'Eastern Bloc' faction was undermining your national leadership and the selfish 'Showboats' Ludlam and Waters were scuttling themselves and there is all that gay this and gay that, L'il Willie Shorten has been quietly beavering away, plundering Greens membership.

Do you reckon Shorten has stitched up the Greens too where donations from 'that' union are concerned?

How Richard Di Natale is managing to hold himself together goodness knows. But no leader should have to put up with the chaotic collective of white-anting protesters he inherited and can't do anything about. Bob Brown is attacking the party's weak national administration and by implication (since Bob himself was never wrong), Di Natale must be in the frame for that as well.

By now Richard Di Natale would be wishing that Italy might swallow him up, "One dual citizenship now, pretty please?".

Foxy,

I was a bit harsh in dismissing Larissa Waters article. She has a point to make but it is lost in the emotion. Maybe the press release was drafted by an enthusiastic staffer.

Larissa does not have the right skill-set to lead or represent IMHO. She is not an administrator either. However she could serve well in a research/support role.

It is concerning that Greens are not rallying around besieged Richard Di Natale to lend support. It is a pity that the Greens have an ex-leader to critique the real leader, just as the LNP and Labor do too. The risk of losing Di Natale is real and there is no-one with vision and leadership qualities as a replacement.