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The Remarkable Mr Ludlum

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The two Greens Showboats who foundered themselves and have no-one to blame but themselves, are revealed to the public as allegedly toughing it out to the very end, with the certainty of imminent unmasking forcing them to check where they needed to and disclose. That takes a lot of nerve.

Greens leader Richard Di Natale, who was sorely let down by both deputies, admitted that the Greens need to improve governance.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-18/citizenship-issues-in-parliament-how-does-this-keep-happening/8721012

Richard Di Natale's meaning is clear, Greens candidates cannot be trusted to do it themselves. But these are candidates, parliamentarians, Senators, who are trusted with deep State AND COMMERCIAL secrets and the confidential information of ordinary citizens. They are also paid very highly for their responsibilities. That is obviously whether they take those responsibilities seriously or not.

Of course the political spin to protect them and hopefully buff them up for a later Lazarus-like return would be trying to reverse the situation by casting them as the innocent victims of a cruel 'technicality' of the Constitution.

However, while in the bubble that might sound like plausible deniability, or whatever the current leftist-speak is for outright lies, the public will not be having a bar of it and yes, absolutely yes, the public will remember them as not to be trusted.

Sarah Hanson-Young, Senator for South Australia, cut a sweet deal to pay back travel money to which she was not entitled. Politicians from other Parties have had to pay back debts too.

The public need to be assured that, since they haven't offered themselves, Ludlam and Waters will be required to make fair recompense to Government. Even then, they could expect far better treatment than an ordinary member of the public who would be slammed with a penalty, interest on the gross and threat of debt collection and trashing of credit rating.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 21 July 2017 8:49:38 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Breathless anticipation?

Dream big!

Personally I am happy in anticipation of
what is coming!
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 21 July 2017 8:50:15 PM
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cont'd...

Dear Shadow Minister,

What you should be concerned about is the
disintegration of the Liberal Party in this
country. A long time ago the Liberals could
govern in their own right. Then they needed
the Nationals. Now some Conservatives have
broken away, and the question is - how many
others will follow? Plus there is internal
bickering as well as snipping from the side-
lines. So, what is the Party's future?
Is anything being done to prevent the total
implosion?
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 21 July 2017 9:44:48 PM
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According to the forums very own Horice Rumpole, Shadow Minister, if your not an arch conservative like himself you must have been born in a foreign country.
Yep! Richard Di Natale will have a tough time proving his Australian citizenship considering he was born in Melbourne Victoria, Unlike that Liberal Party Kraut who was born who knows where.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 21 July 2017 9:49:52 PM
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Foxy, "So, what is the Party's future?"

Those selfish showboating fools of deputies, Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters, have left the already beleaguered Richard Di Natale in a terrible, no-win situation where improvement to the Greens Party is a lost dream.

Who would want to be Richard Di Natale and be putting a foot into the green swamp when they all meet in Canberra to decide roles? Indiana Jones couldn't imagine in a nightmare the toothy, poisonous, plotting nasties concealed beneath.

The 'Watermelons' would be wanting Adam Bandt as deputy. So, the only real choice is for Di Natale is to play the womens equity card to rule Bandt out of contention. He could end up with two deputies and twice the angst again.

Sadly, Richard Di Natale is better off finding another area of life to make his contribution. There are some things that cannot be pushed uphill.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 21 July 2017 10:43:38 PM
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Foxy,

Similarly, the greens are falling apart with internal fighting and the loss of 2 MPs with a further 2 in doubt. Recent polling shows that there is a risk of them falling into 4th place behind One Nation.

Paul,

I have British citizenship, as my father was born overseas, and applied for it on my behalf when I was 16 before I ever left the country. However, having never lived in the UK my children cannot get it automatically.

Dinner Tally's parent(s) were Italian, and so his parents also had the right to claim Italian citizenship on his behalf. The question is whether they did.

With regards to Abetz's citizenship, the moment one becomes an MP one gets a diplomatic passport, which is hard to issue to a non-citizen.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 22 July 2017 6:02:13 AM
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